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Brake question
Just finished putting a 2002 KX 125 front end on my KDX 200. This included the KX brake caliper and master. The first thing I noticed is that the KX brake seemed alot more mushy than the KDX one. I bled the KX brake and topped off the master. No change.
What next?
Thanks
What next?
Thanks
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bleed some more...
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Push it in through the bottom slowly.... watch the master cylinder for bubbles. When they stop... button it up and it should be good to go.
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I have a friend who is a long time mechanic at a Kawasaki dealership. He is the person who pressed my stem for me. told me the older KX front brake hose routing made it very difficult to get it properly bled. based on this I used my KDX fron brake. His words were that they would never feel as good as the KDX brakes. Could be bunk but I trust him. He had nothing to sell me...
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same calipers...
02 KX 200 hybrid: RB head and carb
Sold ☹ DRZ 400 SM
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Conventional bleeding has never worked on my KDX... or KX frontend.
Or my brothers, which I proved to him. Took all of 5 minutes to bleed them once we pushed the fluid up from the bottom.
Or my brothers, which I proved to him. Took all of 5 minutes to bleed them once we pushed the fluid up from the bottom.
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I used to do it with a syringe from the bottom, t'was messy and a PITA. The brake always felt "mushy".
Then I tried the cheap brake bleeder:
http://www.cyclegear.com/spgm.cfm?L1=&L ... em=MRX_BB1
made the job not only easier and faster and now no more mushy
Then I tried the cheap brake bleeder:
http://www.cyclegear.com/spgm.cfm?L1=&L ... em=MRX_BB1
made the job not only easier and faster and now no more mushy
02 KX 200 hybrid: RB head and carb
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What do you use to push the fluid? I also used a vaccum pump and the front brake still does'nt feel right.Indawoods wrote:Conventional bleeding has never worked on my KDX... or KX frontend.
Or my brothers, which I proved to him. Took all of 5 minutes to bleed them once we pushed the fluid up from the bottom.
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I used a Surgical Syringe with a Cathater Tip and some clear vinyl tubing.
Fill the syringe with brake fluid... burb it, attach it to the bleeder nipple, crack it and start push the fluid slowly watching the master cylinder for bubbles... they will come.... when they stop showing up... tighten the nipple and test.
Fill the syringe with brake fluid... burb it, attach it to the bleeder nipple, crack it and start push the fluid slowly watching the master cylinder for bubbles... they will come.... when they stop showing up... tighten the nipple and test.
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last time i just took a clear hose filled with a few inches with fluid and zip tied that to the bleed valve and run up along the fork. Open up the master and start pouring fluid in as needed while you pump it through with the lever. I usually need to close the valve, pump it up, and crack the banjo bolt at the master cylinder once or twice. Air likes to get caught right there... Do this for as long as it takes to stop seeing any bubbles coming up into the MC or up into your bleed line. This method worked in about 15 minutes after having spent a couple hours trying to bleed it the old fashioned way with no success....
Inda's method is supposed to work very well. I never managed to find a syringe appropriate the task. Didn't have anything laying around that would work anyway.....
Inda's method is supposed to work very well. I never managed to find a syringe appropriate the task. Didn't have anything laying around that would work anyway.....
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