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Clip Question
KDXr's,
While having the bike checked out last week, I asked the dealer to make any adjustments needed to the bike and he said he dropped the clip to help lean out the bike.
I'd like to learn about these subtle changes but have no idea what a clip is. I read IWoods notes and am going to do some testing with the screw but wanted to reverse what the dealer did with the clip.
It now bogs down low and has an extra kick up top... I'd rather it be more linear. Does anyone have a photo of what the clips looks like and how to make this adjustment?
Thanks.
While having the bike checked out last week, I asked the dealer to make any adjustments needed to the bike and he said he dropped the clip to help lean out the bike.
I'd like to learn about these subtle changes but have no idea what a clip is. I read IWoods notes and am going to do some testing with the screw but wanted to reverse what the dealer did with the clip.
It now bogs down low and has an extra kick up top... I'd rather it be more linear. Does anyone have a photo of what the clips looks like and how to make this adjustment?
Thanks.
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Take your gas tank off and unscrew the carb. cap. when you pull it out a slide, spring and the needle will come out also. The cable goes into a slot on the slide, you will have to take the plastic retainer off by sliding/ pulling the spring up. THe cable come out but be carefull not to let the spring go or you will be looking for parts all over, trust me it sucks. Use forcepts/ roach clips or needle nosed vise-grips to hold everything on the cable. Use a socket to unscrew where the cable went into and turn it upside down. The needle will come out. You will see the clip it is very small and easy to lose so watch out. Follow Indas instructions from there.
I think on some if you loosen the clamps on the carb you can rotate it enough to get the cap off but be very careful with the slide.
I think on some if you loosen the clamps on the carb you can rotate it enough to get the cap off but be very careful with the slide.
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yep I have the 05 200 model, and you just need to loosen both sides of the carb (screw and alen bolt), then you can rotate the carb to unscrew the top.I think on some if you loosen the clamps on the carb you can rotate it enough to get the cap off but be very careful with the slide.
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Re: Clip Question
Droppin' the clip is the same as raising the needle - and that richens the bike . . . the needle sits further out of the needle jet.paceyman wrote:KDXr's,
. . . he said he dropped the clip to help lean out the bike . . .
You misunderstood your dealer or your dealer doesn't know what he's talkin' about!
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Lower the needle, or in the dealers terms, raise the clip back up a bit. Should wake it back up. Check ur plug!
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Just got the slide out and am stuck since I don't have a metric socket that small. First thing is done - slide out. Next, the clip.
Thanks guys for your coaching.
Bill
Just got the slide out and am stuck since I don't have a metric socket that small. First thing is done - slide out. Next, the clip.
Thanks guys for your coaching.
Bill
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I am going to be doing my own jetting soon and I got a quick question that fits here. I have an '06 200. When I unscrew the clamps on both sides of the carb, do I have to unscrew the throttle cap off and take the whole carb out? Or should I not mess with that? I'm going to put in a 155 main and a 45 pilot and adjust from there. Sucks that it is soooo cold, I really want to rejet already and ride. Also, I usually ride at 500-800 feet. Would that be a good jetting change? I have removed snorkel (soon to drill holes in lid), FMF "rev", Powercore II silencer.
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Redd,
Just did my clip adjustment this past week. I unscrewed the both clamps and removed the carb. Then I unscrewed the cable cap and removed the cable, spring, slide and needle. The clip adjustment was pretty simple.
Good luck with the rejet. Adjusting the clip brought back the snap it was missing.
Thanks Team.
Bill
Just did my clip adjustment this past week. I unscrewed the both clamps and removed the carb. Then I unscrewed the cable cap and removed the cable, spring, slide and needle. The clip adjustment was pretty simple.
Good luck with the rejet. Adjusting the clip brought back the snap it was missing.
Thanks Team.
Bill
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I took the cap off. Mine is a 250 with a VERY large tank, so yours might be different. If you just change the main you can always take the drain cap off the bottom of the carb and you can change it from there w/o taking the entire carb off. Just be careful not to cross thread the new one, use just a socket and extension to start it. I didn't change the pilot in mine.OldRedd wrote:I am going to be doing my own jetting soon and I got a quick question that fits here. I have an '06 200. When I unscrew the clamps on both sides of the carb, do I have to unscrew the throttle cap off and take the whole carb out? .
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er....32:1 is leaner than 40:1 so from that standpoint....no.
155/45 is closer to reality though....
155/45 is closer to reality though....
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One other fairly dumb question , before I go and turn the airscrew out 1.5 turns, where is the airscrew positioned stock? Is it all the way in? I never messed with it since I bought the bike brand new, and it seems as though that makes a bit of a difference in terms of jetting as well.
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Good work! Now, go do a search on how to do a throttle chop and how to read a spark plug. I bet you can find even more power as you "fine tune" your jetting a little more.
Also, just to check; you do understand how 40:1 is richer than 32:1 is.... Right? If not, just ask or search. It's been discussed and it can be confusing. Just remember; 40:1 has more gas per volume of fuel than 32:1 has. More gas means more richer. On a smaller scale, the viscosity of the 40:1 ratio is thinner than 32:1 and that can change your leanness" (is that a word?!?) More oil makes thicker fuel. Thicker fuel doesn't flow as well as thin fuel. Hence 32:1 is leaner because it contains less gas per volume and it's thicker mix goes through jets slower.
Also, just to check; you do understand how 40:1 is richer than 32:1 is.... Right? If not, just ask or search. It's been discussed and it can be confusing. Just remember; 40:1 has more gas per volume of fuel than 32:1 has. More gas means more richer. On a smaller scale, the viscosity of the 40:1 ratio is thinner than 32:1 and that can change your leanness" (is that a word?!?) More oil makes thicker fuel. Thicker fuel doesn't flow as well as thin fuel. Hence 32:1 is leaner because it contains less gas per volume and it's thicker mix goes through jets slower.
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Thanks for all your help. I've just began to research this 'chopping' stuff and so far I seem to understand it. Thanks for clearing up all that "lean vs rich" confusion as well. I'll keep you posted during my fine tuning process. Not sure if "leanness" is a word, but it works for me
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