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My Clutch

Posted: 10:18 pm Aug 12 2007
by MaD_SheF
hey all just a question:

when i was preparing to loob the chain on my 220 somthing kinda funny happened..
i had the bike jacked up and started the bike. i then pulled the clutch and dropped the bike into first gear. as soon as i putt my bike into to first gear the back wheel began to spin even with the clutch in. is this because the clutch is not being fully activated? if so how could i fix it? or is the bike in need of a new clutch all together?

Posted: 10:42 pm Aug 12 2007
by Indawoods
That's what they do....

Posted: 10:47 pm Aug 12 2007
by 2001kdx
That's the nature of the beast my friend :mrgreen:

Posted: 05:10 pm Aug 13 2007
by Jeb
Sure makes lubing that chain easy, doesn't it!!

Posted: 01:37 am Aug 14 2007
by MaD_SheF
yeah it does..

guys the clutch is pulled in but the wheel was still spinning you sure it is supposed to?

my dads doesnt do it so.. :neutral:

Posted: 09:35 am Aug 14 2007
by fuzzy
What you're describing is called clutch drag. The KDX is famous for it. When the bike is on the ground it probably lurches, and idle drops when you put it in gear? Well, at that point the clutch is actually slipping ever so slightly. When you pick the bike up as in your example you see it engage. It's a tough wet clutch, and is nothing to worry about. What it boils down to is the actuating assembly for the clutch is a bad design. :neutral:

Posted: 09:42 am Aug 14 2007
by wanaride
No one else said anything so maybe everyone does it like that, but...

Running the bike on a stand to lube the chain? Wow, that sounds like an accident waiting to happen. :rolleyes:

Why not just lean the bike over while on the kickstand and spin the tire by hand??

Posted: 11:50 am Aug 14 2007
by fuzzy
Indeed. Put bike on center stand in neutral, and spin the rear tire by hand.

Posted: 02:53 pm Aug 14 2007
by radonc73
Enough safe and sane we NEED more danger here!! :lol: I wouldn't lube the chain like that but I don't see it harming anything on the bike and unless you are careless you will keep all your fingers.

Posted: 03:22 pm Aug 14 2007
by kelasaki
I've pinched a finger pretty good just rotating the back wheel by hand, can't imagine what damage I could do with it in first.

Posted: 03:22 pm Aug 14 2007
by MaD_SheF
actually i take alot of percautions when doing it lol and when your doing it by your self it makes it much easier but yeah lol

and thx fuzzy for the info :)

Posted: 04:41 pm Aug 14 2007
by Jeb
I start my bike, and with chain lube can in hand - pointed in the general direction of the chain - I tilt the rear wheel off the ground via the kickstand. I drop her in first and lube away, works great!! I think it's safer than spinning the rear wheel 'cause I don't have to touch anything that's spinning.

Posted: 02:04 pm Aug 15 2007
by canyncarvr
What kind'a bike does your Dad have?

I'm curious what bike has NO clutch drag.....

Well...BMWs with dry clutches I suppose don't drag much...

A BTW...this chain spraying event (motor driven or not) DOES take place on the INside of the chain, right?

NOT on the OUTside of the chain, say, on the back of the rear sprocket?

Posted: 02:46 pm Aug 15 2007
by 2001kdx
LOL CC you got me man, I kinda do both, a little on the outside then a little on the inside, now that I think of it, why would one lube the outside of the chain???

Posted: 04:36 pm Aug 15 2007
by canyncarvr
Re: '..why would one lube the outside of the chain???'

Because that is the easiest access. Doesn't do much good...but it's easy!

But...centrifigal force is not your friend in such a case.

A chain should be lubricated on the inner circumference. Then..centrifigal force IS your friend!!

Posted: 05:47 pm Aug 15 2007
by Jeb
I direct the spray down on top of the chain - to the inside of the chain walls - where the chain is returning to the C/S as it's spinning, giving it a good going over to make sure it works it way to the insides of both chain walls. Perhaps a bit wasteful but it seems to work best I can tell. And it's quick and easy.

Posted: 06:27 pm Aug 15 2007
by MaD_SheF
My dad has a kdx 220 just like mine same year and everthing

Posted: 07:09 pm Aug 15 2007
by canyncarvr
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MaD_SheF wrote:My dad has a kdx 220 just like mine same year and everthing
You might want to put that one in a museum. Probably ain't another KDX like it in the world.

Not that I doubt you or anything...but I'd have to see it to believe it.

OK...I guess I doubt it a little bit....