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2002 KDX220R - To Split or Not to Split

Posted: 03:54 pm Nov 26 2023
by stnd
Hi,

Winter is coming and I thought I wanted to rebuild my KDX. Yesterday I started tearing it down but did a compression test and it clocked in at 150PSI which i believe is pretty good.

The reason I wanted to tear into it is because I thought the right crank seal is leaking since my boot keeps getting oil sprayed onto it and oil is leaking out of the clutch cover where the lever goes into it. I read that the only reason it should spray out is when pressure escapes the main chamber through a leaking seal.

Really not sure what to do at this point. Leave it be, or tear in and replace everything. I have 60 hours of trail riding on it, and don't know the bike history. Power delivery is good, but the leaking always bugs me.

Any advice?

Re: 2002 KDX220R - To Split or Not to Split

Posted: 04:59 pm Nov 26 2023
by SS109
Hmm, maybe you should just R&R the right side case cover and throw all new gaskets and seals on that side and see how it goes. How's your plug look? Do you foul plugs? Does it excessively smoke?

Re: 2002 KDX220R - To Split or Not to Split

Posted: 08:15 pm Nov 26 2023
by kdxdazz
stnd wrote: 03:54 pm Nov 26 2023 Hi,

Winter is coming and I thought I wanted to rebuild my KDX. Yesterday I started tearing it down but did a compression test and it clocked in at 150PSI which i believe is pretty good.

The reason I wanted to tear into it is because I thought the right crank seal is leaking since my boot keeps getting oil sprayed onto it and oil is leaking out of the clutch cover where the lever goes into it. I read that the only reason it should spray out is when pressure escapes the main chamber through a leaking seal.

Really not sure what to do at this point. Leave it be, or tear in and replace everything. I have 60 hours of trail riding on it, and don't know the bike history. Power delivery is good, but the leaking always bugs me.

Any advice?
who ever wrote about the pressure of the leaking seal doesn't know what he is talking about, the gearbox is vented and never pressurized, i would just change all the external seals and enjoy it, cheap and easy, if you do a rebuild later down the track then the seals are already changed anyway, then you only have crank seals to change

Re: 2002 KDX220R - To Split or Not to Split

Posted: 01:07 am Nov 27 2023
by stnd
SS109 wrote: 04:59 pm Nov 26 2023 Hmm, maybe you should just R&R the right side case cover and throw all new gaskets and seals on that side and see how it goes. How's your plug look? Do you foul plugs? Does it excessively smoke?
The plug has never fouled on me. I'm running on the same plug for a few years now.
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Re: 2002 KDX220R - To Split or Not to Split

Posted: 01:09 am Nov 27 2023
by stnd
kdxdazz wrote: 08:15 pm Nov 26 2023
stnd wrote: 03:54 pm Nov 26 2023 Hi,

Winter is coming and I thought I wanted to rebuild my KDX. Yesterday I started tearing it down but did a compression test and it clocked in at 150PSI which i believe is pretty good.

The reason I wanted to tear into it is because I thought the right crank seal is leaking since my boot keeps getting oil sprayed onto it and oil is leaking out of the clutch cover where the lever goes into it. I read that the only reason it should spray out is when pressure escapes the main chamber through a leaking seal.

Really not sure what to do at this point. Leave it be, or tear in and replace everything. I have 60 hours of trail riding on it, and don't know the bike history. Power delivery is good, but the leaking always bugs me.

Any advice?
who ever wrote about the pressure of the leaking seal doesn't know what he is talking about, the gearbox is vented and never pressurized, i would just change all the external seals and enjoy it, cheap and easy, if you do a rebuild later down the track then the seals are already changed anyway, then you only have crank seals to change
Hope you are right, I will proceed this way for now. Also I wonder if I would be able to see if a seal is leaking by taking off the clutch cover side of things first. I just want to stop any leaks. The KIPS cover is also leaking.
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Re: 2002 KDX220R - To Split or Not to Split

Posted: 04:09 pm Nov 27 2023
by kdx633
I know pictures can be deceiving but are those little globs of aluminium on the plug?

Re: 2002 KDX220R - To Split or Not to Split

Posted: 04:59 pm Nov 27 2023
by stnd
kdx633 wrote: 04:09 pm Nov 27 2023 I know pictures can be deceiving but are those little globs of aluminium on the plug?
I will double check, but pretty sure it is just carbon deposits. I zoomed it too much with a flashlight on it.

Re: 2002 KDX220R - To Split or Not to Split

Posted: 06:46 pm Nov 27 2023
by bufftester
The clutch actuator leak is a simple seal. The leak around the KIPS cover on the LH side of the engine is also an O-ring. Just looks like the bike has not been given preventative maintenance for a bit. With 150 psi compression IIWM I would replace those seals like SS109 and kdxazz suggested and ride it until it really needs service.

Re: 2002 KDX220R - To Split or Not to Split

Posted: 07:35 pm Nov 27 2023
by stnd
bufftester wrote: 06:46 pm Nov 27 2023 The clutch actuator leak is a simple seal. The leak around the KIPS cover on the LH side of the engine is also an O-ring. Just looks like the bike has not been given preventative maintenance for a bit. With 150 psi compression IIWM I would replace those seals like SS109 and kdxazz suggested and ride it until it really needs service.
Thanks for the advice. Do you know what the seal on the clutch actuator is? Looking at the fiche I don't see any seal. Found it. 92049-1262

https://www.kawasakipartshouse.com/oemp ... 387/clutch

Re: 2002 KDX220R - To Split or Not to Split

Posted: 05:38 pm Nov 28 2023
by bufftester
stnd wrote: 07:35 pm Nov 27 2023
bufftester wrote: 06:46 pm Nov 27 2023 The clutch actuator leak is a simple seal. The leak around the KIPS cover on the LH side of the engine is also an O-ring. Just looks like the bike has not been given preventative maintenance for a bit. With 150 psi compression IIWM I would replace those seals like SS109 and kdxazz suggested and ride it until it really needs service.
Thanks for the advice. Do you know what the seal on the clutch actuator is? Looking at the fiche I don't see any seal. Found it. 92049-1262

https://www.kawasakipartshouse.com/oemp ... 387/clutch
Yep, and the O-ring for the other side is 670B2022

Re: 2002 KDX220R - To Split or Not to Split

Posted: 08:31 pm Nov 29 2023
by Chuck78
You can pressure test the crankcase if you make up a basic test gauge setup and compression plug (Dorman expansion plug from auto parts store) to plug the exhaust port. 5psi pressure max and do a couple minute leakdown test. If it bleeds down pressure quickly, spray all gaskets seals and case joints and studs with soapy water and look for bubbles.