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First KDX Edinboro PA
Posted: 10:19 pm Jan 14 2019
by decluk13
Hey, been out of bikes for a while then got the itch to start riding again.
Picked up a somewhat basket case 2000 KDX 200 for a few hundred that the previous owner blew the lower rod bearing out of. I have the engine all torn down now and most of the parts on hand just stuck on what to do with the top end (stock or EG225).
Seems like a lot of really loyal riders offering their experience on here so hopefully I can use that to move my rebuild down the best path.
Re: First KDX Edinboro PA
Posted: 04:04 am Jan 15 2019
by Molly's 70
I'd go stock.
Re: First KDX Edinboro PA
Posted: 06:46 am Jan 15 2019
by Julien D
I agree, I'd build it back stock.
Re: First KDX Edinboro PA
Posted: 08:55 am Jan 15 2019
by KDXGarage
If it is not going to be raced in a displacement restricted class, I would go 225 kit.
Re: First KDX Edinboro PA
Posted: 05:22 pm Jan 15 2019
by SS109
Doesn't the EG225 lose the power valve? If it does, go stock.
Re: First KDX Edinboro PA
Posted: 05:54 pm Jan 15 2019
by KDXGarage
I don't think so. I think he just cuts the flapper back. The KDX220R has a different flapper.
B737driver has one:
viewtopic.php?f=106&t=17341
I called him back in 2003 or so, and asked him about the 1989 - 1994 models with a big bore kit. He told me that it could not be big bored without losing the power valves. They are too close. That was not the 1995+.
Re: First KDX Edinboro PA
Posted: 09:32 am Jan 17 2019
by decluk13
B737driver thread has me pretty well sold on the EG225 it sounds like what I'm looking for.
To frame the situation a little better, I'll be riding mostly tight trails and I'm not a small guy 215-220Lbs so I can probably use a few more CCs for low end grunt. I don't see myself spending much time above 4th gear. The bike has an FMF gnarly (not sure if woods or rev couldn't find any part numbers stamped) and Power core silencer. I don't currently have any plans for sanctioned racing so displacement class isn't a concern.
My reasoning is this so far.
200cc
Pros:
-Less deviation from spec.
-Easy to source replacements (head/piston/cylinder)
-Less chance for human error
-Cost
Cons:
-Less power
-Stud/power valve removal before plating.
-Difficult to source piston not knowing if overbore will be needed.
EG225cc
Pros:
-More power
-Apparently he takes care of studs and power valve
-Porting specific to my riding rather than generic
Cons:
-Cost
-Possible human error
Re: First KDX Edinboro PA
Posted: 10:25 am Jan 17 2019
by KDXGarage
On the 225 kit (223 cc), what are you viewing as possible human error?
Thanks for mentioning whether you were racing or not. I was hanging out with fellow member treelimb yesterday. He is having engine work done now. He intends to race in the 200 / 250F Beginner class in his chosen racing organization, so engine size was a concern to him. He chose not to do the 225 kit.
Re: First KDX Edinboro PA
Posted: 01:03 pm Jan 17 2019
by decluk13
My assumption was that the EG porting is a "hand porting" job rather than CNC. No doubt he has a standard port map he follows. Understandably with anything done by hand there's room for variance on dimensions/angles that would impact the performance of a final product. I won't pretend to know what those margins are in a 2T engine but it seems from what I've been reading up on they aren't incredibly broad between "just right" and "oh no".
Re: First KDX Edinboro PA
Posted: 01:15 pm Jan 17 2019
by KDXGarage
OK, thanks for the reply. I don't know if he is doing it himself, but he has been porting since the 70's and did some pros bikes.
Re: First KDX Edinboro PA
Posted: 07:32 pm Jan 18 2019
by decluk13
Wound up sending the parts out to EG today, hopefully it's the right choice for me.
Re: First KDX Edinboro PA
Posted: 09:37 am Jan 19 2019
by KDXGarage
Cool. Let us know how it goes.
Re: First KDX Edinboro PA
Posted: 12:41 pm Oct 10 2019
by decluk13
This build is complete and I have been riding and adding throughout the year since I got it running in early June. I'll post about the result in the product reviews as that seems most appropriate.
Re: First KDX Edinboro PA
Posted: 01:41 pm Oct 10 2019
by KDXGarage
Thanks!