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dampener

Posted: 10:41 pm Nov 22 2005
by Ryan
well, i know some people got them, and i know this may sound stupid but what do they do?? i mean they are only like a 3inch box that sells for like $400. Do they help with the suspension or somthing?? I doubt i will get one in the near future but im just curious what they are. thanks

Posted: 11:02 pm Nov 22 2005
by Colorado Mike
They keep your front end from oscillating in tank-slapper situations, and keep the front wheel from being deflected by stuff on the ground like angled tree roots or rocks. I've had one on my bike for only one season now, but have noticed that my arms are much more relaxed while riding, I crash a lot less, my friends think I'm faster, and they think it must be engine mods. One thing I noticed last time out (in snow) I was having a lot of trouble, I dialed the damper a few notches lighter, and I was more stable. I also have found that running wide open (near 70 mph) on 2" of loose gravel on top of a hard-packed road was flat scarey on my bike. It would shake the steering head from side to side and feel like it wanted to go into a big wobble . With the damper, it dosn't do that at all.

They are a lot of money, but I like mine a lot.

Posted: 12:16 am Nov 23 2005
by quailchaser
I'm not sure what a dampener does...but a damper will do exactly what Mike said. :wink: I like the W.E.R. damper I have on the KDX. We'll see if the Scott's is worth the extra cash after I get it installed on the KX.

Posted: 07:57 am Nov 23 2005
by jafo
I have a Scott's damper. I've been through alot of different terrain with it from big rocks to gravel and deep dry ruts. The place I've noticed it the most is in the deep dry ruts going about 30 to 40 mph. Basically it feels like it makes the rear of the bike trail behind the front of the bike instead of the front wheel going into one rut and the back wheel into a side rut. Where it would cause the bike to go sideways and you bight the dust hard. I've been there done that. I'm not affraid to hit rutted areas anymore with speed. Thats where I feel it most. Basicaly it just makes the bike feel more rigid and stable in all conditions, but does'nt forgive the rider with no brains that does something beyond his riding capabilities. But it does help.

Jon.

Posted: 07:59 pm Nov 23 2005
by canyncarvr
I've ridden with both. The Scotts is considerably better...and costs considerably more!!

Some bikes (not the KDX) are deathtraps without one. KTMs 'fer instance. I've ridden them with...ridden them without. Sheeeeit...the undamped KTM (125) would flat skeer you to death!! And THAT was with a $4500 (you read right) RG3 suspension on it!!

My personal opinion and all...but the oem KDX forks/damper combo is not a winner. I could BARELY tell I even HAD a damper with the oem forks. With the KX forks? Whoa! So THAT is what it's supposed to do.

p.s.
Following me (on my oem KDX/WER damped forks), my riding buddy said bunches of times...'Your damper isn't doing a dang thing!'

He rides with a Scotts........... :wink:

BTW...re: 'doubt I'll get one...'

Folks that ride with them generally agree: 'I will never ride without one!!'

They are a big deal!!

Posted: 11:23 pm Nov 25 2005
by 4Rider
I second canyncarvr's opinion. It is very (veeeeery) noticable in the deep sand and loose rock as well. I have a Scotts unit on my KTM 400 and it totally changed the bike. Went from squirrley beast to well-manner in one easy but expensive step. I have Precision Concept do the suspension on all of our bikes, so the problem was not in the basic setup. If you have it adjusted correctly, you won't be able to notice it most of the time. Your steering imput feels the same, but you will really notice that the bars aren't getting jerked out of your hands when you hit rocks, roots, ruts, yamaha riders, environmentalists etc.

If a dampener saves one injury by preventing a crash, it's worth whatever it costs.