Re: Really struggling
Posted: 01:07 am Apr 10 2026
Yes, I agreed they are lighter but by how much is the question? Is it actually significant enough to warrant dubious machining of an aluminum stem down? I don't think so. I strongly disagree with you that taking 1mm of wall thickness off an aluminum stem is not a significant amount. 1mm of wall thickness on a hollow aluminum (hell, even steel!) tube is very significant in a highly stressed part that is already made to be the lightest the engineers felt was safe. No offense but I'm going to trust the guys with the engineering degrees over that random guy who "made it work" on his bike. He's not going to be around if and when it fails on someone and gets them hurt or killed. That's just my .02 on that particular mod.Chuck78 wrote: 10:01 pm Apr 09 2026The aluminum steering stems are definitely a bit lighter, and every little bit counts if you're trying to save weight everywhere, but one should take note there very thick, so taking 2 mm off of the diameter, 1 mm wall thickness, is not any significant amount to be worried about structurally.
If the aluminum stem is really worth having, the only current, and safe, option is the cheap Chinese conversion bearing. At least if the bearings fail the front end will at least stay on the bike.
Labor...that's kind of ironic when talking about turning down a stem don't ya think?Chuck78 wrote: 10:01 pm Apr 09 2026The bigger issue beyond that is the labor involved to press out two stems, knurl and press it back in, and then machine a bushing to mate to the top triple. Why take out a perfectly good aluminum stem that's usable with the bearings available nowadays, to do all that labor to get something slightly heavier that requires some makeshift modifications to make it a press fit? I know no one's ever had a failure reported from the knurling, but still, it's less than my standards to do so when better alternatives exist.
Yes, doing a stem swap takes a few more steps but, if you have ever done one, you know it's very easy to do. Any small press that can physically hold the stems length+lower triple thickness can do it and hand knurling tools are available on Amazon. This allows you to continue to use stock sized bearings that are easy to find and can be found in different quality levels.
The KDX steel stem knurling has been proven to be safe and reliable on lots of KDX's over the years. I've had two done that way, one with over 800 hours since the swap, and nothing has moved in any way.
IMO, there are really only the two options, KDX stem swap or the conversion bearing used with aluminum stem. Both will work and not risk the safety of the rider. The conversion bearing is the cheapest option by far.