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KIPS rattle

Post by javjacob » 09:14 pm Jun 18 2019

My 1996 KDX200 has a good KIPS rattle. What parts need to be replaced to fix it? Cant find anything doing a search but there surely has to be something worn to cause the noise.
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Post by KDXGarage » 10:24 pm Jun 18 2019

You may want to take it all apart and check it out before buying any parts or letting us guess at it. :-)
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Re: KIPS rattle

Post by bufftester » 10:27 pm Jun 18 2019

KDXGarage wrote:
10:24 pm Jun 18 2019
You may want to take it all apart and check it out before buying any parts or letting us guess at it. :-)
+1 Service it first and see what condition it is in (it is 23 years old after all). You may never completely get rid of it.

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Re: KIPS rattle

Post by javjacob » 08:21 pm Jun 19 2019

Going to take the top end apart this winter. I'm going to send the cylinder to Millennium for plating and powervalve cleaning. I will have to wait until late fall before I take it apart. Hopefully I can figure out what it is and fix it.
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Post by KDXGarage » 10:38 pm Jun 19 2019

What's keeping you from checking it out now, if you don't mind me asking?
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Re: KIPS rattle

Post by javjacob » 10:07 am Jun 22 2019

Just going to wait until riding season is over. The rattle isn't hurting anything so I can live with it until then. I also can't help myself but to go overboard on things so I might end up doing a full frame up rebuild. A frame up rebuild is in the plans actually.
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Post by KDXGarage » 10:13 am Jun 22 2019

Cool. Thanks for the reply.
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Post by Vossman » 10:26 pm Jun 24 2019

So this kind brings up a question. Is the rattle just the combustion sound the goes into that resonator box/cover thing on the left side of the cylinder? I never figured out why that thing is needed. Most other dirt bikes don’t have them right?

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Post by John_S » 12:58 am Jun 25 2019

When I first got my 220 I figured it had a pretty loud KIPS rattle. I have one of those auto store stethoscopes and decided to probe around. The resonator cover and front cover weren't nearly as loud as putting it near the rear of the cylinder. I wanted the stock 220 piston out for a Wiseco and after I swapped it all the KIPS noise I thought I was hearing was completely gone. It was the piston slapping around in the bore. It was loud at idle and loudest when decelerating at around 2000 rpms. I've seen enough KDX videos and I swear mine sounded just like what others call KIPS rattle. The 220 forces us to swap out the piston but I bet there is a lot of 200's out there long overdue for a piston and rings.

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Post by KDXGarage » 03:58 am Jun 25 2019

When in doubt, check it out.
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Post by TwistedRoot » 04:50 pm Jun 26 2019

John_S wrote:
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When I first got my 220 I figured it had a pretty loud KIPS rattle. I have one of those auto store stethoscopes and decided to probe around. The resonator cover and front cover weren't nearly as loud as putting it near the rear of the cylinder. I wanted the stock 220 piston out for a Wiseco and after I swapped it all the KIPS noise I thought I was hearing was completely gone. It was the piston slapping around in the bore. It was loud at idle and loudest when decelerating at around 2000 rpms. I've seen enough KDX videos and I swear mine sounded just like what others call KIPS rattle. The 220 forces us to swap out the piston but I bet there is a lot of 200's out there long overdue for a piston and rings.
John I am with you. I thought my KIPS was loud as heck until I did my top end. I dont notice it nearly as much now and it does not "knock" as it did pre-top end.
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Re: KIPS rattle

Post by javjacob » 01:22 am Jun 30 2019

You might be on to something. The guy I bought it from told me he bought it from the original owner and he was told the top end has never been off and he never did it either. I already got a new Wiseco piston and I will be sending it and the cylinder to Millennium for plating when I tear it apart.
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