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Where to mill head and port cylinder?

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I have a 2004 KDX220 with Boyesen reeds, FMF Desert Pipe and airbox lid removed.

I am considering buying a Billetron Pro and getting the head milled and cylinder ported as part of this upgrade process. RB no longer offers this service. Jeff Fredette said he can't get around to it until quite a bit later, and Eric Gorr appears to be retired.

Are there any other options for getting this work done?

And is it worth the time and cost to do this considering that I'm upgrading to a Billetron Pro?

Thanks!
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Re: Where to mill head and port cylinder?

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Yes, it's worth getting the head squish done regardless of what carb you're running. There is more to it than just easier jetting with the head mod. It would run better even if it was running fuel injection. It helps combustion efficiency throughout the entire rpm range which equates to lower fuel consumption and more power.

Getting the cylinder ported is something different. It is normally only a power related mod. It can shift the power in the rpm range depending on how it's ported but the idea is to increase overall power.

Millennium can do both for you on the KDX.
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Re: Where to mill head and port cylinder?

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Did not know that Eric Gorr was packing it in! Immediately went to the website to check it out........

If you're really creative and with the know how, Chuck78 posted some really good info in a thread om the milling of heads, and links to a spread sheet that you can us to play with the numbers and profile. Long tern goal of mine is to run the numbers and give it a go with an ebay head........
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The 220 definitely benefits significantly from machining the head. If you simply just mill it, you're going to be stuck running 93 octane or higher (US octane scale, highest pump gas available excluding the other option of running race gas). Ron Black completely rechambered the heads when he has done them. Milled significantly, then slightly altered squish band width with an intentional more sharp transition from squish band to dome/chamber, and then completely rechambered in order to bring the compression back to near stock levels as to not exceed 200psi cylinder pressure for reliability and ease of kock starting. His were not at all a high compression head so to speak, but rather a head with a completely adjusted squish clearance height and slightly altered squish band width, which makes the squish band portion of the cylinder head actually a highly effective tool and mixing the air fuel and properly with the port timing and ignition timing.

With the lazy clearance the stock 220 had, it was not nearly as effective as it could have been, as you need to have no more than 1.4 mm clearance to really utilize the squish band's actual design function to a high degree. Anything over 1.6 mm piston to head including compressed head gasket thickness doesn't have much of a significant effect.
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Millennium Technologies definitely has the know how in capabilities to do a KDX head like this for you.

Tom Morgan Racing as well. Now that Jeff Fredette is perhaps nearing retirement, Eric Gorr advertising semi-retired and only doing select work and smaller jobs, and Ron Black almost entirely retired and not likely to respond to emails, Tom Morgan Racing and Millenium seem to be the top two choices for cylinder porting and head work for us. Ken O'Connor Racing perhaps as well, know as much about Ken's shop and work.

Due to all this and me owning an old antique South Bend Heavy 10 L metal lathe, I have been interested in making a fixture to hold the KDX head in a 4- jaw chuck and learning myself how to do calculations and work that Ron Black had done. This will probably end up being a winter project for next winter though, now that we are into the riding season.


EDIT - I also HIGHLY RECOMMEND the Lectron Billetron Pro Series + optional Xcelerator metering rod + Lectron long body adapter + custom order Barnett cable part # "TODD MILLER" (search my Billetron thread here for engineering drawing), + Boyesen RAD Valve....
Even better than a well jetted PWK35 Air Striker with #5.5 or #6 slide & CCN needle...
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Re: Where to mill head and port cylinder?

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kdx310 wrote: 08:28 pm May 05 2024 I have a 2004 KDX220 with Boyesen reeds, FMF Desert Pipe and airbox lid removed.

I am considering buying a Billetron Pro and getting the head milled and cylinder ported as part of this upgrade process. RB no longer offers this service. Jeff Fredette said he can't get around to it until quite a bit later, and Eric Gorr appears to be retired.

Are there any other options for getting this work done?

And is it worth the time and cost to do this considering that I'm upgrading to a Billetron Pro?

Thanks!

Look up Ted @ Boyko Racing in California. He's a porting/head wizard, and has been since the late 1970's on the DG/Suzuki race teams. He's done a KDX200H cylinder and head for a friend of mine who actually works part time 1-2 weekends a month for Ted in the busy seasons. He milled the base gasket area down to lower /advance the port timing instead of taking such a substantial amount off of the head, which is an approach for the 200 porting that I would fully endorse in order to get it to run more like a modified 220...

I may send Ted a cylinder or two of mine very soon.


https://boykoracing.com/



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Sebastien in California who helps out Ted at his Boyko Racing shop part-time during the busy seasons when Sebastien isn't working his day job, he sent me a long video via WhatsApp comparing a cylinder that Mitch Payton the founder of Pro Circuit had recently ported, and comparing it to a cylinder which Ted at Boyko Racing had just ported for him. If anyone else would like to see this, I can forward this video via WhatsApp Messenger.
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There's also Tom Morgan Racing.


https://morganracingengines.com/tmrservices.html

Both he and Ted Boyko maybe our best resources nowadays since Eric Gorr is mostly retired and Jeff Fredette is looking to "pass on the torch," so his website implies.



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Lastly, I almost forgot about Ken O'Connor Racing!


http://kenoconnorracing.com
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http://kenoconnorracing.com/cylinder-head-machining.php



http://kenoconnorracing.com/porting-2-stroke.php


http://kenoconnorracing.com/pricing.php


I really think any of those three guys/shops would do a pretty fantastic job based on the customers specified needs and requirements.
Do a web search for feedback from people who have used them and make your choice. I'm curious about sending one cylinder in head to Boyko Racing & another to one of the other two guys...
'97 KDX220R - purple/green! - KLX forks, Lectron, FMF, Tubliss
'99 KDX220R project - '98/'01 RM125 suspension, Titanium hardware, Lectron Billetron Pro, Tubliss
'77 Suzuki PE250 & '83 Suzuki PE175 Full Floater - restomod projects
'77 Suzuki GS750-844cc, '77 GS400/489cc & '77 GS550/740cc projects
'62 GMC 1000 Panel Truck
'88 Suzuki Samurai TDI/Toyota swaps
'88 Toyota 4x4 pickup
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