Registering a kx/kdx hybrid

magilla · Post by **magilla** » 02:15 pm Aug 02 2007

A question for those of you who've built a kx/kdx hybrid. How did you go about registering the creation?
Is it registered as a KX?
Any problems with frame and engine #s not matching? Did you take advantage of a "special construction" allowance?
Also, anyone in California pull this off with minimal hassles?

I'm seriously considering doing the swap, but I'd hate to run into reg. hassles that keep me from enjoying my woods bike.

Thanks!

m0rie · Post by **m0rie** » 03:01 pm Aug 02 2007

I've also been thinking about going down this route as well. In CA i'd just stick with a 2002 or older frame then your green sticker no matter what and there should be no hassle. You'd have to register it as the KX Vin though. Or do the special construction bit, but I don't know how well that would work. Another option would possibly be welding/grinding smooth the vin on the KX frame and restamping the KDX vin into if possible.

radonc73 · Post by **radonc73** » 03:24 pm Aug 02 2007

Why register? Do they have to get registered to get your stickers? Here in IN they don't match numbers up just pay your fee and if you get stopped by DNR anywhere they will take the number down in case you screw up then the fines come or in case it is a stolen bike.

magilla · Post by **magilla** » 04:47 pm Aug 02 2007

Yes, we do have to register with DMV to get our sticker in CA.
I figured I'd go with an 01' or 02' chassis and be good as far as green vs. red sticker. Just wondered if the mismatched engine/frame #s caused a problem for anyone.

"Another option would possibly be welding/grinding smooth the vin on the KX frame and restamping the KDX vin into if possible."

That's a BIG no-no in CA. Possible results could include having the bike impounded or just not being able to register it.

Ideally I'd love to get a dual reg. on the thing so I can connect trails and use forest service roads. I'll keep dreaming on that one...

magilla · Post by **magilla** » 04:48 pm Aug 02 2007

Radonc73,
do you work in radiation oncology?

skipro3 · Post by **skipro3** » 09:27 pm Aug 02 2007

California registers by the year and model of the frame. They don't seem to care about the motor. So your bike will be registered based on the KX model frame and it's year of manufacture.

My buddy took a 2005 KX500 motor and put in a 2002 frame in order to green sticker the bike. The frame is the same since 1998 I think. That's where I learned my info from; my buddy's experience.

radonc73 · Post by **radonc73** » 01:45 pm Aug 03 2007

Yes, I am a Radiation therapist. I save on the electric bill that way.

I work at a hospital around Chicago. And you?

Post by **fuzzy** » 02:05 pm Aug 03 2007

The frame is the same since 1998

For the 500 isn't that the same since 1989?

skipro3 · Post by **skipro3** » 07:35 pm Aug 03 2007

You are right. I got my mords wixed. I guess I sounded like a terd of hurtles.

ebeck · Post by **ebeck** » 12:05 pm Aug 04 2007

Reegistration is based on Frame VIN. Frame and engines do not have matching part numbers or Vin Numbers.

If you use a KX frame it is registered as a KX, that is what it is titled as.

2001kdx · Post by **2001kdx** » 12:07 pm Aug 04 2007

skipro3 wrote:You are right. I got my mords wixed. I guess I sounded like a terd of hurtles.

Also there was no 2005 KX500

magilla · Post by **magilla** » 04:38 pm Aug 05 2007

Thanks for all the input.

RadOnc, I'm also an RTT and just passed my CMD. I've been a full time Dosimetrist for the past three years. Work at a clinic in Santa Rosa, CA.

radonc73 · Post by **radonc73** » 09:40 pm Aug 05 2007

Cool. It is nice to see some class on this board

I thought about Dosimetry but right now I have a kid on the way so unless I could cross-train where I am at I will stay an RTT.

magilla · Post by **magilla** » 02:22 pm Aug 06 2007

I don't know about class. I'm still a scummy biker at heart.

You've got to really want to be a Dosimetrist. The training is tough enough, but prepping for the exam is a whole 'nother ball game.
Cheers!

radonc73 · Post by **radonc73** » 09:40 pm Aug 07 2007

I have heard that, what is it like a 40% first time fail rate? Where is Santa Rosa? I live outside of Barstow for a few unfortunate years in '94 and '95. While in the Army. Wow we really hijacked this thread.

magilla · Post by **magilla** » 12:40 pm Aug 13 2007

Aargh!!! Thread hijack indeed!

I think that the pass rate is around 35-40%.

Santa Rosa is an hour North of San Francisco.
Where in Indiana are you at?
I was in S. Bend for a board prep course in April.
I hear there are several good centers there.

On a bike note,
I'm still searching for a good frame with a title.
I figure it'll be easier to find on already registered in CA. So I don't have to deal with transfer from another state, vehicle inspection, etc...

Or I may just put my KX forks on the KDX and be done with it.

ebeck · Post by **ebeck** » 11:28 pm Aug 13 2007

It is pretty easy to convert.

art5 · Post by **art5** » 08:25 pm Aug 14 2007

Just wanna ride don't want to convert,

IdahoCharley · Post by **IdahoCharley** » 01:36 pm Aug 15 2007

m0rie wrote: Another option would possibly be welding/grinding smooth the vin on the KX frame and restamping the KDX vin into if possible.

Even in backward states like Montana and Idaho your bike is taken away from you since it is presumed stolen if manufacture's vin is alterated in anyway.

Hard to get out of police impounded vehicle yards from what I've heard. Heard a story of a person who's bike was impounded because his powder coating filled in the VIN numbers - took a lawyer six months to get permission and access to the bike to allow a witnessed scrapping off of the powder coating to reveil the VIN. Bike had been stored outside in the impound area and was weathered and missing parts.

Another story I heard was the owner of a bike (which had been stolen from him and recovered by police) had to rebuy his bike during an auction of police impounded vehicles because the bike had never been registered. He was the second owner and the manufacture's certificate of origin was given to the first owner but not passed onto the second owner with the bill of sale. (Original owner had moved)

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