boyesen rad valve or Vforce3
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boyesen rad valve or Vforce3
I have both and would like some feed back on what to use.
This will be for a H series 200. I will be running it with a 36mm Lectron Carb.
Also have FMF rev and torque pipes to try.
I had the Boyesen on my E series and the reeds last for ever!
The motor I bought had the vforce and have not got it installed in the frame yet.
This will be for a H series 200. I will be running it with a 36mm Lectron Carb.
Also have FMF rev and torque pipes to try.
I had the Boyesen on my E series and the reeds last for ever!
The motor I bought had the vforce and have not got it installed in the frame yet.
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boyesen rad valve or Vforce3
don't have experience with the rad valve, but a few articles I read in the past indicated that the vforce3 is generally considered the better performer, which is why I bought one.
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Re: boyesen rad valve or Vforce3
I've never experienced the boyesen but do have the vforce on my 200. Did the jetting, fatty pipe, and reeds at the same time. WOW, completely different bike, really fast and pulls good through full rpm range.
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boyesen rad valve or Vforce3
I can't coment on the rad valve but I completly understand the v force. What I like about them is:
1) The splitter plate for the top and bottom has a nice nose on it. If you can imagine air traveling into the reed block the area of the initial inlet tube is x. This is then devided into two. To keep the same area you will have to transition it quickly and a nose like a whale or jumbo will do the job. The reason why you need to maintain the same area as you travel down the intake is if you increase size speed slows and can cause turbelance which is even worse. If you shrink it to much you can loose volume but gain speed. There is a balance.
2)the reeds are on a much flatter angle this flatter angle means the reeds will open easier and not as much. This will give you earlier opening and longer duration.
3) the reed material is thin and easy to bend (see 2)
4) this set up is superior to any two stage reed pettle as the top one is thin (see 2) and the base one is thick to support the thin one so you don't get bounce or wobble at high speed. Thick is opposite to 2&3
My 2c so I got the VFORCE
1) The splitter plate for the top and bottom has a nice nose on it. If you can imagine air traveling into the reed block the area of the initial inlet tube is x. This is then devided into two. To keep the same area you will have to transition it quickly and a nose like a whale or jumbo will do the job. The reason why you need to maintain the same area as you travel down the intake is if you increase size speed slows and can cause turbelance which is even worse. If you shrink it to much you can loose volume but gain speed. There is a balance.
2)the reeds are on a much flatter angle this flatter angle means the reeds will open easier and not as much. This will give you earlier opening and longer duration.
3) the reed material is thin and easy to bend (see 2)
4) this set up is superior to any two stage reed pettle as the top one is thin (see 2) and the base one is thick to support the thin one so you don't get bounce or wobble at high speed. Thick is opposite to 2&3
My 2c so I got the VFORCE
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boyesen rad valve or Vforce3
Both Eric Gorr & Jeff Fredette recommend the boyesen rad valve .....that's why I have one fitted to my 220...
Enough said !
Enough said !
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boyesen rad valve or Vforce3
Maybe you can try both and tell us
2001 KX125 with a 1997 KDX Tioli Hp motor
My KDX journey starts at the bottom of this page:
http://www.trials.com.au/forum/viewtopi ... &start=160
Trials.com.au / Forum / All about...me! / My long time friend the prancing horse / page 9
My KDX journey starts at the bottom of this page:
http://www.trials.com.au/forum/viewtopi ... &start=160
Trials.com.au / Forum / All about...me! / My long time friend the prancing horse / page 9
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Re: boyesen rad valve or Vforce3
The RAD Valve seems to wake up top end, but the V3 definitely adds off-idle power/response which is what most KDXers want. The RAD valve on most 250s seems better designed.
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Re: boyesen rad valve or Vforce3
They both work great and since you have both the only way to tell which works better for you would be to install each and ride!
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Re: boyesen rad valve or Vforce3
Yeah that makes sense. Fit them both and you tell us what you think of them.KDXohio wrote:They both work great and since you have both the only way to tell which works better for you would be to install each and ride!
Am interested to hear about the Lectron carb you are using?
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Re: boyesen rad valve or Vforce3
Did you ever end up experimenting and try both?
I was wondering which one I would want also.
I was wondering which one I would want also.
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Re: boyesen rad valve or Vforce3
I made my decision when I found this; http://www.boyesen.com/overstock.php?ma ... =Rad_Valve Call them to order one. I bought the rad valve an extra boot (for my other KDX that already has a rad valve and needs a boot). With shipping it was $117 or there about. Rad valve looks brand new and came with carbon fiber reeds .Tyl3r wrote:Did you ever end up experimenting and try both?
I was wondering which one I would want also.
newbbewb wrote:^what he said.
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Re: boyesen rad valve or Vforce3
O wow, that's awesome! Enough to convince me which way to go! Wish I knew for sure what motor I was using so I could snag one up right now!
Thanks for sharing!
Thanks for sharing!
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Re: boyesen rad valve or Vforce3
The rad valve fits all 89 and up KDXs...so, unless you are going with an air cooled motor, you should be good to go.
newbbewb wrote:^what he said.
*side note...I'm drunk, so try to read what I'm trying to say, instead of what I actually typemasterblaster wrote:Man 6 riders you rock.
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Re: boyesen rad valve or Vforce3
I have the rad valve and love it!
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Re: boyesen rad valve or Vforce3
O shoot, the 200 and 220 use the same part number, did not see that at first!
I dunno, looking on ebay I saw 2 different places selling the VForce 3's for 125 bones. I am a nerd and really like the tech behind the VForce and how it has more reeds... I may lean that way when it comes time to get one.
I was hoping that someone may have tried both and can describe the differences they noticed in performance between the two...
I dunno, looking on ebay I saw 2 different places selling the VForce 3's for 125 bones. I am a nerd and really like the tech behind the VForce and how it has more reeds... I may lean that way when it comes time to get one.
I was hoping that someone may have tried both and can describe the differences they noticed in performance between the two...
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