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V-Force high/low reed tension settings

Posted: 04:26 pm Oct 23 2010
by gregp
Today I removed my V-Force reed cage, and moved the reed stops to the "low tension" setting, even though the cage came with a small paper with a warning that said that the reed life will be dramatically shortened in this setting.
It made a big difference! The motor now has a very strong hit in the lower mid-range - just where I want it!
The V-Force now feels very similar to the Boyeson RAD valve I had in my '96 KDX.

Posted: 05:54 pm Oct 23 2010
by SS109
Which version, V2 or V3?

Posted: 06:14 pm Oct 23 2010
by gregp
V2

Re: V-Force high/low reed tension settings

Posted: 06:21 pm Oct 23 2010
by frankenschwinn
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gregp wrote:Today I removed my V-Force reed cage, and moved the reed stops to the "low tension" setting, even though the cage came with a small paper with a warning that said that the reed life will be dramatically shortened in this setting.
It made a big difference! The motor now has a very strong hit in the lower mid-range - just where I want it!
The V-Force now feels very similar to the Boyeson RAD valve I had in my '96 KDX.
I was curious about this as I have the same reeds and they had the same warning. I left them alone. Maybe I will adjust them and see what it is like.

Posted: 05:35 am Oct 24 2010
by gregp
The Boyeson RAD valve did not come with any warning, but, over time, they did develope a reputation for needing frequent reed replacement, although I never had any issues with mine.
I guess it really is pretty simple - If you set them up, or design the cage so that the reeds have to flex more, they will wear out sooner (than stock). There is no free lunch!

Re: V-Force high/low reed tension settings

Posted: 06:56 am Oct 24 2010
by gregp
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frankenschwinn wrote:>|<>QBB<I was curious about this as I have the same reeds and they had the same warning. I left them alone. Maybe I will adjust them and see what it is like.
Even though getting at, removing, and replacing the reed cage is a bit of a PITA (removing the pipe will help, but I didn't), I recommend that you try this. You may not notice much of a difference in a wide open riding area, as top end power remains largely unaffected, but once you get in the tight stuff, the difference will be immediately noticeable.
While I had it out, I took the time to trim off a portion of the "V-Force" tab (using a Dremel with a cut off wheel), and installed it right side up, but I do not believe that made any difference...

Posted: 07:00 am Oct 24 2010
by gregp
...I have an FMF woods pipe, stock silencer, lid removed from the air box, jetting, and the power valve detent ball and spring removed...

Posted: 02:11 pm Oct 24 2010
by frankenschwinn
Mine is a hybrid with a woods pipe, turbine core II silencer. Airbox removed. Jetted pretty good. Vforce II reeds/cage. I am looking for a bit more punch coming out of corners in singletrack, woods sections.

Posted: 02:32 pm Oct 24 2010
by gregp
That is pretty much what I was looking for, and what I got. :-)
The only thing left would be porting, maybe, but I would guess that is only for top end, or maybe the "wing in the carb inlet" mod and the RB head mod, but I do not think that I will go that far. The motor pretty much pulls as good as I need it to.
I may start looking at race Tech Gold Valves next.... I had them in my KLX250, and loved them for sharp trail hits.