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shifting?
Posted: 07:53 pm Apr 04 2010
by pinitwot
ok on my 01 220 i have tried shifting at wide open throttle with out the clutch. and in about any gear above 3rd it shifts pretty easily at wide open but i want to know if this is hard on stuff? will it wear out my tranny faster?
thanks
Posted: 08:41 pm Apr 04 2010
by Indawoods
Most people will let off the throttle while doing that....
Posted: 09:37 pm Apr 04 2010
by Rick
Exactly! Works great, especially if you are standin up, going fast while maneuvering through stuff. Or sitting down. Let off the gas, go up or down a gear, and keep on cruising!
Posted: 06:00 am Apr 05 2010
by Julien D
Unless you're battling for position in a race there is no reason to do WOT shifts. At least let off the throttle first.
Posted: 09:05 pm Apr 05 2010
by pinitwot
but is it hard on it to shift at wide open and or shifting just without the clutch?
Posted: 09:38 pm Apr 05 2010
by frankenschwinn
pinitwot wrote:but is it hard on it to shift at wide open and or shifting just without the clutch?
yes, both.
Posted: 05:53 am Apr 06 2010
by Julien D
IMO clutchless shifts are fine as long as they're off-throttle.
Posted: 08:37 am Apr 06 2010
by Rick
Roger that!
Posted: 02:02 pm Apr 06 2010
by Mr. Wibbens
Not really on the same topic, but On some bikes, when shifting down, it helps to blip the throttle right before you chop it and shift,
Really helps getting into 1st on my Strom while I'm still rolling
Posted: 02:33 pm Apr 06 2010
by scheckaet
I do the same as wibs described on all my bike, got into the habits of blipping the throttle to reduce engine braking on my thumper when shifting down. Dunno if it's good or bad habits but that's what I do.
Posted: 04:50 pm Apr 06 2010
by fuzzy
Helping upload your trans to 'sync' it is always a good thing. Sync is a bad term in the case when talking about constant-mesh transmissions. 'heping to unload the driveline' would be a bit of a better term?
Using the clutch is a must for WOT shifting unless you install a momentary ignition kill (common on shifter karts integrated into the shifter handle itself). Timing is crucial. If done properly the only thing you should be hard on is your clutch, and top-end of motor(overrevving). Hope you have changed out the piston in this 220. If you do it wrong you can expect broken trans pieces, shift forks, etc.
Posted: 05:36 pm Apr 06 2010
by Julien D
Yep. All it takes is one missed WOT shift to destroy the transmission. Use the clutch if you're doing WOT shifts. I think it's faster to just ease up on the throttle and shift.
Posted: 12:18 pm Apr 07 2010
by pinitwot
ok thanks that is what i wanted to know