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Trouble disassembling E series KIPS

Posted: 08:34 am Mar 31 2010
by dfeckel
Hey, guys,

Finally getting to the top-end part of my hybrid build, and I'm having trouble getting the main KIPS valve to dislodge from the front of the cylinder. Any good KIPS tips? I have the online manual, and it says to slide the main valve out a bit, but I just can't break it loose. It appears to be the only intact KIPS valve, so the last thing I want to do is bugger it up. Help?

Here's a pic from the manual of the part of the main valve that needs to slide forward. Mine won't.
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Posted: 09:26 am Mar 31 2010
by Julien D
It comes out about as far as what you have there, and then you have to hold the two sub valves up and slide out the main rod from the RH side of the cylinder. Once the main rod is out you'll be able to pull the main valve the rest of the way out.

See the little line that is barely visible around the sleeve just past the cylinder? That line is the one you pull it out to before pulling out the main rod.

Posted: 11:19 am Mar 31 2010
by dfeckel
My problem was that i just couldn't get the aluminum assembly to break loose from the cylinder. I managed to get it free by using a brass drift on the powervalve, coming in from the top of the cylinder. Did I jack up my powervalve? Doesn't look like it. However, after a bunch of carbon cleaning, it looks as if there is enough wear on the gear to justify buying a new one, anyway. Oh, well...Babbitts, here I come.

Posted: 12:04 pm Mar 31 2010
by Mr. Wibbens
Little heat always gets mine loosened up

Posted: 05:09 pm Mar 31 2010
by dfeckel
Now Bike Bandit says the Rod-Governor (the toothed pushrod) is no longer available. Anyone have a good place to check for OEM parts that would have this? Thanks!

Posted: 05:18 pm Mar 31 2010
by Jupiter2
try cheapcycleparts.com

Posted: 05:33 pm Mar 31 2010
by Mr. Wibbens
Try a member here, TopperHarley, he sells stuff on ebay @ gatewaytwostrokemx

Send him a pm, he often has the parts but not listed

Posted: 05:35 pm Mar 31 2010
by Mr. Wibbens

Posted: 01:49 pm Apr 02 2010
by dfeckel
Thanks for the heads up on the other parts suppliers!

Posted: 04:57 pm Apr 02 2010
by Julien D
I've had good luck using service honda to get parts that bike bandit can't or won't get.

Posted: 05:04 pm Apr 02 2010
by Mr. Wibbens
Nice thing about Ron Ayers. If they don't have it in stock, they can find out who does

That's how I got the input shaft needle bearing for my case, overnighted (thanks Carvr)