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This can't be good ;(

Posted: 08:11 pm Mar 19 2010
by Mr. Wibbens
Went riding today

Having a blast

Kept on hearing something...

Kind of a whirring sound...

Pinned it down to only happening in second gear

1st is fine 3rd on up is fine

2nd sounds like a fuggin truck in 4 Low

Fug fug fug!

Posted: 11:18 pm Mar 19 2010
by RBD
Maybe an output bearing in the tranny just behind the countershaft sprocket? Second gear is right next to this bearing.

Ron

Posted: 12:35 pm Mar 20 2010
by Mr. Wibbens
Thanks Ron

Probably messed it up when my water-pump seal went last summer

Wonder if something you can only get from Kawi or if a bearing supplier would have one?

Posted: 05:04 pm Mar 20 2010
by Mr. Wibbens
Hope you are right Ron

Just talked to a mechanic, he thinks it sounds like a gear from what I told him

Posted: 11:02 pm Mar 20 2010
by Mr. Wibbens
Got as much apart as I can until I can get the cases split apart

Output shaft spins nice and smooth

Input shaft is kinda noisy and not as smooth

Posted: 11:45 pm Mar 20 2010
by Mr. Wibbens
Remember Brad's buddy I ran into?

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He's got a case splitter to let me use!! :supz:

I posted that I needed one on Facebook and he answered, said he'd take it with him when he goes riding in the morning and I can come by and get it!

Posted: 11:52 am Mar 21 2010
by Colorado Mike
I suppose you're planning to change the crank bearings and seals while you're in there? When my kid blew up his YZ I found all the tranny bearings felt a little rough and one of them was really bad. I swapped all of them and the shift stop gizmo which had broken.

Posted: 02:00 pm Mar 22 2010
by Mr. Wibbens
Gotter split...

Used a friends homemade splitter. Took a few beers to figure out a plan to make it work

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Needle bearing got kinda ugly

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Posted: 02:02 pm Mar 22 2010
by Mr. Wibbens
Guess I need to seal up my left cover better :shock:

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Posted: 04:51 pm Mar 22 2010
by Mr. Wibbens
But where'd all the needle bearings go Wibby??

[img::]http://wibby.smugmug.com/Motorcycles/Te ... 6oAb-L.jpg[/img]

Largest piece is about 3/16"

Posted: 05:03 pm Mar 22 2010
by Julien D
Yikes!

Posted: 05:28 pm Mar 22 2010
by Mr. Wibbens
I think I found the rest of the bearings

[IMG::]http://wibby.smugmug.com/Motorcycles/Te ... hZj4-L.jpg[/img]

Posted: 05:33 pm Mar 22 2010
by Indawoods
Wow... :blink:

Posted: 05:44 pm Mar 22 2010
by Colorado Mike
Looks to me like you need to send them off to Slick Nick so he can "clean them up" for ya.

So it was making a whirring noise huh? I wonder if a sasquatch can differentiate between whirring and grinding. :wink:

Those geary parts are spendy, hopefully you don't need too many.

Posted: 05:46 pm Mar 22 2010
by RBD
Ouch,

It took out the main shaft too.... I was hoping it was the other bearing just next to it. Second gear looks ok from what I can see of it.

Ron

Posted: 05:59 pm Mar 22 2010
by Jupiter2
What? It ain't supposed to look like that? :lol:

Posted: 06:20 pm Mar 22 2010
by barryadam
What are you using in your trans?
Astroglide?

Posted: 06:25 pm Mar 22 2010
by Mr. Wibbens
Got a used tranny coming, hopefully it's in better shape

Too bad it wasn't the other shaft, as I believe they are the same in E's and H's


No grindy sounds

Shoot after I got it home I ran it on the stand and everything sounded fine

You could only hear the gear drive sound in second gear and under a load

Any other gear it sounded normal

Posted: 06:27 pm Mar 22 2010
by Mr. Wibbens
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barryadam wrote:What are you using in your trans?
Astroglide?
How'd you know :oops:

Actually I'm running Astroglide/KY - 50/50

Posted: 06:28 pm Mar 22 2010
by Mr. Wibbens
Oil actually looked great when I drained it, except for all the little sparklies in it