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220 piston exploding???

Posted: 10:32 pm Dec 31 2009
by eroc198
i just got a 1998 kdx 220 and i wanna know of any problematic traits of this year and model bike. I have been reading alot about the 220 pistons "exploding" and wanna know what i should worry about. The bike runs fine and makes good power and I believe it is stock. Has anyone else had any problems, let me know! Thanks

Posted: 10:36 pm Dec 31 2009
by skipro3
If the piston is stock, then change it. They are known to have the piston skirt break off. There is no rhyme or reason for it, some cheat death for years and many miles, others end up with a blown top AND bottom end to the tune of many hundreds of dollars. For about $150 you and pretty much bullet proof that motor from anything shy of owner abuse.

Besides, it's a good way to figure out how a KIPS works. A stock 1998 is well past due for a piston change anyways.

Posted: 10:54 pm Dec 31 2009
by skipro3
Oh, and don't replace it with one from Kawasaki either. Go aftermarket. I used a wiseco. There is much discussion on the preferences of forged vs cast; mainly on how you treat the engine when cold. A forged piston is a little "loose" during warm-up and prone to seizure/sticking until fully warm. But hey! it's all been discussed and should be found using the search.

Posted: 11:24 pm Dec 31 2009
by eroc198
ok but i have a few more questions... who else makes pistons for the bike? i do plan on making the bike ALOT faster very soon what part would be the most bang for my buck?And do u know of any companies that make plastics for the bike(i dont care if they are stock or even green for that matter) thx and happy new years!

(please keep in mind the bike is riddin in the muddy swampy areas of south GA.)

Posted: 01:47 am Jan 01 2010
by bronco95tgp
Hey Eroc
Go read through the posts in the 'RB Carb and Head Q&A' section of the forum and you might find some bang for your buck either there or in an exhaust.

Also read the 'Suspension' section to learn how to make that power controllable. search for things like 'exhaust' and 'reeds' and 'air box lid removal'...

Check the online retailers for your plastics, they aren't hard to find.. Acerbis, UFO, and Maier are a few brand names that come to mind.. Maier makes a motocross style rear fender that makes the KDX ALOT faster if you place stickers just right on it! Might help you outrun the gators in the swamps.

Its amazing how much you can learn on this site by sorting through the posts and reading.. for example the first post that comes up in the General Q&A section is a 'sticky' called "Best of the best mods!" that might be a good place to start!

Posted: 04:57 am Jan 01 2010
by Mr. Wibbens
220?

Don't worry, we 200 riders will stop and wait for ya, while we sip on a lil listerene of course

Posted: 08:29 am Jan 01 2010
by Julien D
Wiseco is pretty much your only option for a forged piston. All the other pistons are just different names for the stock cast piston.

Posted: 11:05 am Jan 01 2010
by skipro3
Vertex
Athena
Pro-X
Namura
Mitaka

These are all other piston manufacturers, but I recommend the Wiseco.

Posted: 12:55 pm Jan 01 2010
by johnyblaze
Fortunately, the Wiseco is about the same $$ or a bit less than stock, depending on where you buy.

Posted: 01:16 pm Jan 04 2010
by danfree
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eroc198 wrote:ok i do plan on making the bike ALOT faster very soon what part would be the most bang for my buck?And do u know of any companies that make plastics for the bike(i dont care if they are stock or even green for that matter) thx and happy new years!

(please keep in mind the bike is riddin in the muddy swampy areas of south GA.)
I have a suggestion. Don't do anything to the bike. Sell it and buy mine. I have a 2005 KDX200 with some goodies on it, but it has plenty of room for performance mods. i.e. stock engine and such. My mods were to make it easy to ride (for me). Plus I live in North Florida, so it may not be too far for possible delivery.

Posted: 01:49 pm Jan 04 2010
by Indawoods
Yeah... a 200 is better anyway..... :wink:

Posted: 11:26 pm Jan 04 2010
by Brian
I think all you 200 riders suffer from "Small Piston Syndrome". Why else would you keep yapping at us 220 riders? :butthead:
You don't hear us poking at you do ya? :lol:

Posted: 11:44 pm Jan 04 2010
by Indawoods
'cause you know it's true....

Posted: 11:51 pm Jan 04 2010
by Brian
Your jealous cause my piston is bigger (although less reliable) :mrgreen:

Posted: 12:16 am Jan 05 2010
by Mr. Wibbens
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Brian wrote:I think all you 200 riders suffer from "Small Piston Syndrome". Why else would you keep yapping at us 220 riders? :butthead:
You don't hear us poking at you do ya? :lol:
Can't hear ya cuz we are still waiting for ya to catch up

Posted: 12:28 am Jan 05 2010
by Brian
:lol:

Posted: 01:21 am Jan 05 2010
by canyncarvr
(although less reliable)
Do they make a pill for that?




Wait...I here'em!!

a-ringy-ding dingya-ringy-ding dingya-ringy-ding dingy


...He's gettin' close!!


KA-!BAM!-A DINGY-DONE-DINGED!!


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....Guess he didn't change his piston.........




Les ride!!.......... :wink: