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Somethin amiss

Posted: 10:05 am Jan 16 2007
by hblair
Hi guys, new here. I bought my second motorcycle ever about 5 weeks ago. Guess what kind of bike? yep you guessed it. a kdx, this ones a 2000 kdx 200 model. I got the bike for what I thought was cheap, 1000 bucks, knowing it needed some work.

I bought clutch and brake handles for it, new OEM handguards, etc before I ever cranked it. When I did crank it, it had very little power and at idle it made the awfulest sound. I figured it was piston slap, so I installed a new wiseco piston, this took care of the piston slap sound and helped a little on the power. But it just didn't feel that powerful to me. (keep in mind I'm a novice and I can pretty much keep th throttle wide open with no fear. Plus I've been fouling plugs pretty regularly. Somethin was amiss.

Last night I took the right side of the case off and just as I thought, the bottom end of the kips shaft was broken off and laying in the case.

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I'm gonna get it ordred today, but I'm curious, with the kips valve just floatin around half open, would that not hurt my top AND bottome end of power band? (due to lack of compression on bottom end)?

I'm hoping getting this fixed will make a huge difference in power.

My brother has a 00 KLX 300, with my bike tuned right, shouldn't I be able to run with him? because he's been smokin me on it. We weigh about the same (220)
Shouldn't my bike be abel to carry the front wheel in three gears if everything is right (yeah I've thought of jetting the carb, but I've gotta get everyting else right first)
My bike has the pro circuit platinum pipe. everything else appears stock.
Thanks for any info.

Posted: 10:22 am Jan 16 2007
by Indawoods
Welcome to the site...

Yes... you can keep up with your brother and even smoke him when you get the KIPS fixed. :wink:

It won't hurt the bike to run it as is but it's not doing it any favors....

Posted: 01:57 pm Jan 16 2007
by Green Hornet
Slide the rubber boot down & you will see a notch for a wrench. You have to hold that with a wrench when you re-tighten the KIPS CLAW

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Posted: 09:10 pm Jan 16 2007
by hblair
Well, I'm a little impatient. I took the end off the shaft, cleaned it, preheated it and put me a good hot gorilla weld on it. put it back together and took it for a spin in the lovely 30 degree evening air.
Mucho difference. :supz:

Posted: 12:56 am Jan 17 2007
by skipro3
I'm impressed! I'd sure like to see that weld!

Posted: 09:32 am Jan 17 2007
by crazyaboutriding
you're lucky. when it happened to me, it broke in two bigger pieces and one piece ended up getting under the shift drum so it was stuck in 1st gear and the other piece got stuck in my clutch basket and was stopping the cluch from engaging. :mad: so..... how easily can you smoke that klx now??

Posted: 09:34 am Jan 17 2007
by IdahoCharley
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skipro3 wrote:I'm impressed! I'd sure like to see that weld!
I'm with Skipro :prayer:

Posted: 05:10 pm Jan 17 2007
by hblair
No photos of the weld as she is back together. :)
We'll see how it holds, I think it'll be as strong as it was. I warmed it with a torch to burn off any residual oil and plus to help the weld to burn in nicely on the first pass. No second chances on somethin that small. I layed a bead all they way to the area where the screws are. I think it'll hold.

I guess the piece is stressed when the head gets all spooged up and the kips sticks?

Well, like I said, I'm a novice rider, but it sure feels more powerful to me. It took a while to get it warmed up but second gear feels more like what I thought it should, it doesn't bog (will either spin the tire or dump my butt)

Yep, feels much stronger.

Posted: 07:48 pm Jan 17 2007
by krazyinski
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hblair wrote:No photos of the weld as she is back together. :)
We'll see how it holds, I think it'll be as strong as it was. I warmed it with a torch to burn off any residual oil and plus to help the weld to burn in nicely on the first pass. No second chances on somethin that small. I layed a bead all they way to the area where the screws are. I think it'll hold.

I guess the piece is stressed when the head gets all spooged up and the kips sticks?

Well, like I said, I'm a novice rider, but it sure feels more powerful to me. It took a while to get it warmed up but second gear feels more like what I thought it should, it doesn't bog (will either spin the tire or dump my butt)

Yep, feels much stronger.

USE AMSOIL! that l keep er clean.

Posted: 01:06 pm Jan 18 2007
by canyncarvr
Reading this:
I guess the piece is stressed when the head gets all spooged up and the kips sticks?
...after reading this:
Slide the rubber boot down & you will see a notch for a wrench. You have to hold that with a wrench when you re-tighten the KIPS CLAW
..I'd say it's obvious something has been missed.

The reason the governor rod pin broke was because someone did NOT hold the shaft when the LHT nut was removed.

USE that flat on the shaft...for removal AND assembly.

That's a pretty teeny thing to weld, ain't it?

Good job!

..and welcome to the site!