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IM so confused.
Posted: 02:52 pm Dec 11 2005
by Ryan
can somene please tell me how to change my fork oil. the manual is confuseing with all the tools you need.. which i dont have cause they are too expensive. Do i just loosen the big nut on top and then tip them over and let them drain?? thanks for any help
Posted: 02:57 pm Dec 11 2005
by Ryan
is this right?? and is it bad if i see rust were it is???
http://img125.imagevenue.com/img.php?lo ... rk_oil.jpg
Posted: 04:36 pm Dec 11 2005
by Colorado Mike
doesn't look all that bad to me, but all I see that looks rusty is the pre-load spacer. The original oil Kawi puts in is a mixture of fry grease and pond scum. I would recommend you get a bunch of real fork oil, pour out all the factory glop, and pump the forks a lot to drain all you can. put some real fork oil in, pump it through and drain it. Then fill them for real like the book says. Most guys tend to put a little lees oil in than recommended, but that's up to you.
Posted: 04:42 pm Dec 11 2005
by Colorado Mike
oh yeah, you might want to make a tool that helps to pump the rod . just get a length of steel rod, like 5/16" or 3/8", and weld a nut on the end that'll thread on to the end of the damper rod. It's metric, seems 10mm x 1.0mm thread pitch, but I don't remember for sure. Anyway the rod will make it easier to pump the forks efficiently, and make it possible to get the spring back on without running through your 4 letter word vocabulary.
Posted: 06:41 pm Dec 11 2005
by Ryan
is there any other way of pumping it... i dont have a welder and i dont know anyone who has one.
Posted: 07:58 pm Dec 11 2005
by Indawoods
Yeah... grab the rod and pump it!
Posted: 08:24 pm Dec 11 2005
by Ryan
good i was hoping someone would say that

Posted: 03:05 pm Dec 12 2005
by canyncarvr
Check this:
http://www.dishers.com/hobbies/Repairs/
I don't see a mention of taking the thing apart...obviously you need to do that to get TO the rod to do any pumping.
re: 'Do I just loosen the big nut on the top...'
That's a bit short of what you need to do. The above 'how to' is quite helpful.
re: '...mixture of fry grease and pond scum.'
Really? So....it's been improved? I thought it was pretty much completely pond scum...with some whale pee thrown in for an 'essence of the sea' effect.
Posted: 08:02 am Dec 16 2005
by Ryan
my dad pick me up some oil and i was wondering if it would work. it is avanced autoparts sae5w30 motor oil. Will this work in the forks and how much do i need to put in.
Posted: 08:31 am Dec 16 2005
by dave04kdx
I really doubt the 5W-30 will work in your forks. I surely wouldn't put that stuff in mine. The forks are designed for a special 5W fork/shock oil. The 5W-30 is automotive engine oil. The additives in that oil could possibily do damage to your fork seals and cause you more problems. Besides that its WAY too heavy for the forks!
The fork oil isn't that expensive. You can do both forks with the right oil for around $15.00

Just about any bike shop stocks the fork oil.
Posted: 08:59 am Dec 16 2005
by Indawoods
Fork oil is hydraulic oil.... not motor oil.
Posted: 09:24 am Dec 16 2005
by Ryan
ok so how much does the fork stuff cost. Also can i use a SAE5w hydralic oil, and if i can has anyone else ever used it.
Also this has nothing to do with the oringinal thread but does anyone use a hydralic clutch? And if you do is it worth the $250??
Posted: 09:36 am Dec 16 2005
by fuzzy
Just get the right stuff
Posted: 10:22 am Dec 16 2005
by Ryan
im going too, im gonna get some golden spectro fork oil when i got the chance.
Posted: 10:22 am Dec 16 2005
by dave04kdx
Posted: 12:03 pm Dec 18 2005
by Indawoods
My 73 yr old stepdad thinks I'm crazy for buying quarts of fork oil... he said "Why in the hell are you paying that much for hydraulic oil? Just go down and buy a gallon for what a quart costs"
Got me thinking.....
Posted: 12:08 pm Dec 18 2005
by Indawoods
Fork oil is very similar to hydraulic oil. The requirements for seal protection are the same. Also very important for both is the resistance to foaming.
Be carefull, the classification from SAE like 5wt, 10wt, 15wt is not the same as most of hydraulic oil ; viscosity 5W seems to be about 20 following ISO 3104, perhaps 30. That could be correct for most of forks or suspensions systems.
Here's 5 gallons for $22.95
http://shop.store.yahoo.com/oilstore/noname1.html
Posted: 12:11 pm Dec 18 2005
by KDX220PHIL
hmmmm.... what about Mobil DTE 25, ever heard of that stuff?
http://www.mobil.com/USA-English/Lubes/ ... DTE_20.asp
If this is any use to you.
Posted: 12:16 pm Dec 18 2005
by Indawoods
Proly as much as fork oil though... that Mobil1 stuff is pricey!
Posted: 12:18 pm Dec 18 2005
by KDX220PHIL
Hehehe, not pricey for me. Think it is any good. It does run the company about $125/5gal CDN, around $110US. Free to me
