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Quick cylinder qeustion about cleaning

Posted: 05:55 pm Oct 21 2005
by Ryan
i am talking by cylider apart to rebuild the top end. Well everything id covered in a ton of spooge. I mean a ton ton. Im not sure how to clean all this out, it is in my kips and under the other cover on the cylinder. CAn i just let it sit in parts cleaner over night???

Posted: 08:18 pm Oct 21 2005
by KDXGarage
That sounds a bit harsh. Grab an old toothbrush and try that. If any part is made of just steel, use oven cleaner on it. If you are in doubt, or it is aluminum, spray it on, but let it set for no more than 10 minutes. It can start to eat the aluminum.

In general, I suggest you use the least harsh method, then increase from there.

Posted: 10:01 pm Oct 21 2005
by skipro3
Page 176 of August 2005 DirtRider has a good article with tons of photos on Power Valve Cleaning.

(I knew there was a reason I keep the old copies next to the toilet!!)

Posted: 05:46 am Oct 22 2005
by Mr. Wibbens
Yamaha Combustion Chamber Cleaner

Great stuff, try it!

Posted: 06:58 am Oct 22 2005
by Ryan
can i use like brake cleaner in a can?? or carb cleaner??

Posted: 06:54 pm Oct 22 2005
by wanaride
I'll second Wibby's recommendation for Yamaha Combustion Chamber Cleaner. I tried it in my S/A and the spooge just dissolved away.

Posted: 08:38 pm Oct 22 2005
by Ryan
well i got my power valves and the kips apart today, everything was spooged and some pieces had at least 1/5 of carbon build up. And im not exaggerating. Anyway, i took a wire wheel and hooked it up to the drill press and got it off. I got some brake cleaner and parts cleaner. The parts cleaner takes the spooge off but the carbon can only be take off by the drill press. Now i just got to get a top end.

Posted: 10:59 am Oct 23 2005
by Colorado Mike
What exactly did you clean with a wire wheel? The KIPS valves?

Posted: 11:12 am Oct 23 2005
by Ryan
parts of the valve. there are two parts that go into the cylinder which had alot of carbon. thats what i used it for. Now it looks all new :grin:

Posted: 05:47 pm Oct 24 2005
by canyncarvr
Uh-oh.

Those parts aren't made from Cubic Zirconium!! :wink:

The parts may look good...but I would be surprised if they aren't damaged.

re: Yamaha cleaner

I asked about that at the local Yamaha shop...didn't see it on the shelf. 'Got some?' I said.

'No,' they said.

Gee...that was easy! They wouldn't order it, neither!

Posted: 07:42 pm Oct 24 2005
by KDXer
I got a product called Subaru upper engine and combustion chamber cleaner. Awesome stuff !!! Can't praise it enough. Carbon and spooge basically wiped off. A bit pricy over here but any Subaru dealer should be able to get it. Give em a call first though to avoid disappiontment.

Posted: 07:48 pm Oct 24 2005
by Indawoods
I use Alka-Seltzer Plop Plop Fizz Fizz....

http://www.wackyuses.com/alkaseltzer.html

Posted: 08:23 pm Oct 24 2005
by Ryan
trust me this carbon was caked on, i tried professional parts cleaner, and it did nothing. The parts look great with no pitting at all.

Posted: 08:24 pm Oct 24 2005
by Ryan
i have another quick question, why does my cylinder have a 'B' stamped on it?? It is small and very close to the head.

Posted: 08:31 pm Oct 24 2005
by Indawoods
Because it's a "B" sized cylinder... most of them are.

Posted: 08:44 pm Oct 24 2005
by Ryan
is this a good thing or bad?? whats the differnce between the b and the a?? thanks

Posted: 08:49 pm Oct 24 2005
by m0rie
The size of piston that is optimal for the cylinder corresponds to the letter stamped on the cylinder.

Posted: 09:32 pm Oct 24 2005
by Indawoods
It's a normal thing. You see... there are A , B , C , and D sized pistons for any given bore. A is what the machine that makes the piston is set at but as tooling wears, specs start changing. They just make sure to match up the piston to that sized cylinder.

A is smaller than a B etc... :grin:

P.S... If you buy a Wiseco, they only make one size... just make sure you size the ring to your cylinder.

Posted: 05:06 am Oct 25 2005
by Ryan
so i cant just get the normal rings for weisco??

Posted: 05:24 am Oct 25 2005
by Indawoods
It's a piston kit.