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Tyre (oops sorry, TIRE) levers
Posted: 04:52 am Sep 25 2005
by KDXer
I'm trying to find out what is the best choice for tyre levers. I have read Metzeler ones are supposed to be the best. I have also heard from someone I know who had the Metzeler ones and now owns another pair (I forget the brand) that the other brand ones work better. Any info or recommendations would be great.... Thanks guys... Trev...
Posted: 11:57 am Sep 25 2005
by Colorado Mike
I recently bought 2 of the tusk ones from rockymountainmc.com , they seemed to work fine. I chose them only because they were on sale at the time. I also got one of their bead holders that keep the bead in the center channel. that seems to work pretty well too. Never tried the Metzler ones though.
Posted: 12:10 pm Sep 25 2005
by Indawoods
I use my dealers... and he knows how to use them just fine!

Posted: 12:21 pm Sep 25 2005
by m0rie
I've always used a pair of long screw drivers. I've been wanting to get a pair of tire irons though.
Posted: 12:31 pm Sep 25 2005
by KDXer
Hmmm, bead holders hey ?!? Better look into them.
Thanks for the replies guys, keep em comin...

Posted: 12:36 pm Sep 25 2005
by KDXer
Oh one a them.... I see.... I just use my foot.

Posted: 02:23 pm Sep 25 2005
by IdahoCharley
I also went to the Tusk because they were cheap and longer than the 8 inch trail irons I had been using. Haven't bent them yet - did loctite the handles on though because they would loosen easily.
I have rim protectors somewhere but they are a pain to use and once your wheels are scarred up a bit why bother??
Bead holder - I use a wood clamp or c-clamp to pinch the tire together and don't have a problem.
Posted: 05:56 pm Sep 25 2005
by KDXGarage
KAY DEE EXER, do you mean tire irons for the trailside repair or home repair??
Posted: 11:00 pm Sep 25 2005
by KDXer
Both really.
Posted: 11:04 pm Sep 25 2005
by KDXGarage
I have some 15" long ones that I use at home. They work well, as the longer arms give me mre leverage. I don't have any to use on the trail.
Posted: 11:18 pm Sep 25 2005
by quailchaser
I change tires (tyres) every day. My least favorite are the 125/250F rear tires(100/90-19), any rear with heavy duty tubes, and all ATV tires. The 21" fronts and the 18" rears come off and go on quick. Honestly, teqnique and practice have a ton to do with how quickly and easily they come off. After 6 months of 4 to 6 a day...only takes about 5 min. for 21" and 7 minutes for rears. We have a tire changing machine, but it's really not that much easier or faster than throwing the rim on the bucket and using the old fashion tire iron method.
These are the tools I use
Tire Irons I have 3. One I straitened the flat end with a hammer on purpose to make it less likely to slip when putting the tire on. It has not bent. The second one has held up great as well. The 3rd one I tweaked (and is mostly useless now) changing some ATV tires.
I've never attempted to mess with a tire on trail. These would not be much fun to carry in the tool pack. Some people really like the tire spoons such as these
Tire Spoon. These require a different technique of which I am not too adept. These will fit in a tool pack better though.
Whatever you choose...practice and patience will be the key to success.
Later
Robb
Posted: 12:25 am Sep 26 2005
by KDXer
I have a 15" one I made back at school in metal fab. I am looking at probably getting 2 x 200mm Tyre Plier brand ones. Would you guys recommend the 300mm one's over the 200mm one's ?? Robb, Jas, thanks guys.
Posted: 12:27 am Sep 26 2005
by KDXGarage
How much are you wanting to work at it?? I think the longer irons give you greater leverage.
Posted: 12:46 am Sep 26 2005
by quailchaser
300 millimeter = 11.8110236 inch
200 millimeter = 7.8740157 inch
Metric, yikes.
If you get 4 of the 200mm and weld them together to make 2 @ 400mm, that would work.
Seriously though, longer Irons tend to make the job easier. However, as I stated before, technique, practice and patience are the Key. The suspension guy loves his little 8.5 inch (215.9 millimeter) tire spoons and wants nothing to do with my tools. He can rip em and mount them just as fast!
Later
Robb
Posted: 07:13 am Sep 26 2005
by FLAKDX
I know what you mean about the heavy duty tubes Robb. I'm dreading the day I have to remove my new rear tire. I just installed a fresh Dunlop and one of those new Bridgestone Ultra Heavy duty tubes. The damn thing is 4mm thick

It was a bitch getting in the tire. I can't even imagine how hard it's gonna be getting out.

Might have to break out the die grinder for this removal

Posted: 09:14 am Sep 26 2005
by KDXer
I hear ya Robb regarding practice, etc. I had to change one last weekend. Luckily we were riding at a riding park and they had tubes for sale. $18 mind you for a crap, chinese, thin peice of so called rubber. So I bought one and prceeded to fit it. After 30 mins

it was done. Now to inflate.......... psssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssss
WTF.....

Yep off it came again. I found 4 pinches in the tube.

Went and bought another tube and this time I inflated it more before trying to put the tyre back on. Worked a treat, oh and lots of WD-40 helped to eliminate pinching and eased in reseating the tyre. Second time round took not even 10 minutes, and guess what ??? NO pinches !!!
Thinking about it more, I am leaning towards the 300mm (11.8110236 inch) ones.
FTR I used (read: borrowed) 2 x 200mm ones and 1 approx. 400mm one and it was a piece of cake (well second time round anyway).
Posted: 11:55 am Sep 26 2005
by KDXGarage
KAY DEE EXER, to try to prevent pinches, I have had good luck with using baby powder on the inside of the tire and outside of the tube. I dump a lot in the tire and on the tube, then shake off the excess.
Get the looong tire irons.
Get the looong tire irons.
Get the looong tire irons.
Posted: 12:15 pm Sep 26 2005
by KDXer
Mkay.... Cheers.... Looong ones it is....

Posted: 12:18 pm Sep 26 2005
by KDXGarage
Woo-hoo!

Mine are the same shape as the ones quailchaser linked to. I only have two, but three would be better. It is on "THE LIST".
