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being more competative
Posted: 10:14 am Nov 27 2011
by asmed12345
I'm starting to race hare scrambles next season and am wondering what i can do to my 2002 KDX 200 to be more competative. Or is it good enough as is (fully stock)?
Posted: 11:11 am Nov 27 2011
by Duke
Do a word or subject search on this site and you will find several responses offered to this very question. In most instances you'll find an affirmative being offered. For the C class competing on tight or semi tight course, the bike is still competetive, albeit with a few upgrades. This is espeically true in the 30 and older classes. The more wide open the course and/or the more the course incorporates MX jumps, the less competetive. But even then, there are guys racing desert and a few who dabble on an old school MX track and can pass by far lesser skilled pilots. I would really recommend investing in improving riding skill via a attending a riding local school or DVD series like Shane Watts or Gary Semics. So many folks try to compensate for poor conditioning or bad riding habits by modifying the bike to the hilt-it doesnt work.
Posted: 11:24 am Nov 27 2011
by 4vman1


Duke wrote:Do a word or subject search on this site and you will find several responses offered to this very question. In most instances you'll find an affirmative being offered. For the C class competing on tight or semi tight course, the bike is still competetive, albeit with a few upgrades. This is espeically true in the 30 and older classes. The more wide open the course and/or the more the course incorporates MX jumps, the less competetive. But even then, there are guys racing desert and a few who dabble on an old school MX track and can pass by far lesser skilled pilots. I would really recommend investing in improving riding skill via a attending a riding local school or DVD series like Shane Watts or Gary Semics. So many folks try to compensate for poor conditioning or bad riding habits by modifying the bike to the hilt-it doesnt work.
Very well said. As far as I'm concerned, all a stock kdx needs to win races is aluminum handlebars with wrap around handguards, and that more for crash protection than anything.
Posted: 06:31 pm Nov 27 2011
by gsa102
The rider makes far more difference than the bike.
Good suspension builds confidence to hold the throttle open longer.
Tune your suspension with the appropriate springs for your weight. Set the sag on the rear to get the best possible action. Then work on adjusting the clickers to suit you. FRP has very good reccomendations on their web site.
Ride, ride, ride. Practice against a stopwatch.
I find that I am on the gas far more on the KDX than other bikes.
Posted: 07:17 pm Nov 27 2011
by frankenschwinn
There are lots of performance mods you can do from free to a few hundred dollars.
First would be remove airbox lid - free
new pipe will make huge difference - 300.00
Jetting will also be huge - jets are cheap. get a range based on your altitude/conditions and read the jetting guide
RB Head and carb mod - 250.00ish
KX front end - 300-600.00
Reeds - 35-250.00
Hybrid - ???
This site is a great resource but you must SEARCH/READ to benefit.
The motor with no internal mods can be quite competitive. My bike has gnarly woods pipe, vforce reeds airbox lid removed and jetted properly, No motor mods at all yet. I race the local hare scramble series as well as enduros in the B class and get top 10 overall B. The faster guys arent beating me in the woods because their bikes are faster. In the open stuff they walk away. Starts are not gonna happen against someone on a 450 that knows how to get off the line. I come off the line in first but have never been better than third to the first turn. 5th by 2nd turn.
Posted: 07:46 pm Nov 27 2011
by factoryX
If you looked around the forum there are sections completely made for this purpose. And as Fraken said there is a search bar.

Posted: 09:43 pm Nov 27 2011
by wbdisco
I will say that the rider needs to be more prepared than the bike. I rode my first harescramble this year and I was more tired than I ever could have imagined, but the bike seemed fine

Posted: 08:45 am Nov 28 2011
by frankenschwinn


wbdisco wrote:I will say that the rider needs to be more prepared than the bike. I rode my first harescramble this year and I was more tired than I ever could have imagined, but the bike seemed fine

It more about fitness than anything...
Posted: 12:39 pm Nov 28 2011
by ickfinger
make sure your chain and sprockets are fresh
Posted: 02:08 pm Nov 28 2011
by KarlP
wbdisco wrote:
I will say that the rider needs to be more prepared than the bike. I rode my first harescramble this year and I was more tired than I ever could have imagined, but the bike seemed fine
It more about fitness than anything...
Yup.
Just for fun, find a good long loop of varied terrain and try running it from a full tank of gas until you hit reserve. Keep pretending there are people behind you trying to catch you.
It will give you a good idea of where you stand.
A hare scramble IS an endurance event for most people.
Posted: 04:50 pm Nov 28 2011
by wbdisco


ickfinger wrote:make sure your chain and sprockets are fresh
x2 on this one, had a chain break on the last one I ran, a DNF hurts the soul