The whole idea of wrapping some shim stock around something as important as a steering stem does kinda bug me.
I don't suppose it would be fiscally reasonable to have the stem welded up, then turned down?
Or some other method of fixing the two pieces?
Yeah. I AM fretting.
'Go with your strengths' I've been told. ;)
Thanks, Ski. I'm sure I could come up with some shim stock. Mostly I wanted to give Inda a hard time (for no particular reason..another 'Go with...' idea).
If I get a wheel this weekend, I should be set as far as parts go.
...he said hopefully....
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I've talked to a couple of machine shops. The old timers tell me they can turn me a complete stem made from steel or aluminum, or anything else for that matter for about $50 plus materials; just bring the origonal, the lower triple clamp and a sketch with the dimensions I want. The younger guys won't touch it. They say their insureance won't cover them for the liability. (My mistake, telling 'em it's for a motorcycle I guess.)
Remember, where the shimming is taking place isn't a tight fit anyways. This just kind of fills up the extra area. It's the bearings that are keeping things lined up to where they need to be.
Jerry
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skipro3 wrote: I too am wondering about Inda's "scraping the spacer" comment. The stock (KDX) stem is too long without it. You end up bottoming out on the threads AND the stem hits the bars if you don't have that spacer.
My stem isn't. At first I thought it would be but it's not. All that is needed on my setup is a washer if that. You will see when I post pics this weekend. I'm not crazy.... really!
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Inda: If you're sorting thru pics to post..and have one of the base valve (if that's what it's called on USD forks), put that up, too.
I'd like to compare an oem KYB piston to what's in 'my' PilotPro forks just for grins.
Ski: Yeah..you're right. The top clamp does just kinda sit there (stemwise).
re: liability Last time I had to get a bearing on my Duster I was all over the valley for the exact same reason. No one would touch it! I could buy an oem axle with a bearing on it..but I didn't have oem axles..and didn't have oem bearings, neither. They were fearful of getting sued if the axle fell out of the rear-end.
I've always wanted a press. Maybe it's time to buy one! A BIG one!! Those stems are pretty tight, aren't they?
..eventual trouble.... Oh yeah! One of the basic facts of life! Usually you can 'fix' the wheel part, thought. :(
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BTW...The 'top' of the KX units have a bleed screw? I want to use bleeders (poppers) if I can. Maybe can't if the forks have to sit above the T-top clamp..might interfere with the bars?
Just thought of another Q...the KDX top clamp doesn't by chance fit the KX bar spacing? I'd rather use a one piece clamp than the individual clamps. I don't recall anyone saying anythinga about that....
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canyncarvr wrote:
Just thought of another Q...the KDX top clamp doesn't by chance fit the KX bar spacing? I'd rather use a one piece clamp than the individual clamps. I don't recall anyone saying anythinga bbout that....
Yup! Sure does!
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CC... my Scotts made for the KDX (Which is a one piece unit) fits the KX setup (Which is available in the Parts area for a paultry $35! ). This is what I was going by.
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Home made oil level guage! Look familiar? It's a brake bleeder converted to a oil level guage! Hey... it worked great! I simply cut a piece of tube to the depth I wanted and then sucked out the rest with the vacuum pump.... SIMPLE!
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Top clamp snug without spacer:
Yea, but that stack of washers under the top nut is almost the size of my spacer. And quite a bit of threads sticking up there. Still, the threaded end doesn't hit that bars and that IS different than mine.
Nice work there Inda. Now come out west for a KX fork shoot out to see who's done the best job.
Jerry
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You know Ski... Without putting in that spacer under the clamp.... the stem tapers outward at the bottom and with the shim stock, it fits just great! The top HAD to drop for the Scotts to line up. Just no way around it but all worked out perfectly and I have no regrets.
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Hi Inda,
I was thinking about the spacer and it got me wondering:
my upper triple has the additional spacer under it, raising the upper triple. My forks now ride higher into the triple clamps which lowers my front end back to (almost) stock. Have you measured the front ride height before and after your fork mod? I'm thinking that the spacer might make a difference in final front end ride height. I measured from my bar end to the ground with the forks fully extended and ended up about 3/4 inch taller with the KX setup.
What do you think?
Jerry
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...he said hopefully....
Huh?
). This is what I was going by.
