Bart attacks!

Post by **Mr. Wibbens** » 02:03 pm Nov 02 2005

Maybe it's time for a Mac Jerry?

Wonder if Okie is behind this?

skipro3 · Post by **skipro3** » 02:09 pm Nov 02 2005

There must be something on my PC that tells it to redirect any image from the KDX site to the bart link. How to find it, I don't know. It does the same for windows internet explorer and for firefox. Only on my home pc. Grrr.. Okie? I don't see how.

KDX220PHIL · Post by **KDX220PHIL** » 02:24 pm Nov 02 2005

Worked for me. Possibly restore defaults under internet properties>advanced?

skipro3 · Post by **skipro3** » 02:49 pm Nov 02 2005

First I deleted all the firefox historys and such. Then I deleted and reinstalled firefox; still the same.

KDXer · Post by **KDXer** » 03:09 pm Nov 02 2005

If you can see what you are doing google Trend Micro House call. Run the virus and spyware checker. I betcha a cold one it will find threats. http://housecall60.trendmicro.com/en/start_corp.asp I can't guarantee it will fix Bart but it's def. worth a try.

KDXer · Post by **KDXer** » 03:16 pm Nov 02 2005

Above link must be run in IE.

KDX220PHIL · Post by **KDX220PHIL** » 03:16 pm Nov 02 2005

Does firefox use internet explorer to access the internet, so if you were to uininstall IE would firefox still work?

KDXer · Post by **KDXer** » 03:19 pm Nov 02 2005

I'm pretty sure you can't remove IE properly in XP anyway. It still stays, it just removes the icons I believe.

motorider200 · Post by **motorider200** » 03:28 pm Nov 02 2005

KDX220PHIL wrote:Does firefox use internet explorer to access the internet, so if you were to uininstall IE would firefox still work?

Firefox is completely seperate from IE in other words they don't depend on each other to run.

Post by **KDXGarage** » 03:35 pm Nov 02 2005

skipro3, what version of IE are you running?

It sounds like you need to run a virus scan, checkdisk, scandisk, something.

How long have you been running on the current installation of Windows 98?

KDXer · Post by **KDXer** » 03:54 pm Nov 02 2005

How do you know he's running 98 ?? Just curious if I missed it somewhere. Jerry, KDXquebec,,,, Please RUN the link I provided in Internet Explorer and let me know how many threats it finds. I run it almost weekly and it always finds threats.

KDXer · Post by **KDXer** » 04:00 pm Nov 02 2005

I just found these;

Virus Check 2 virus(es) deleted
- 2 virus(es) deleted, 0 virus(es) undeletable

Spyware Check 6 spyware programs removed

- 6 spyware(s) removed, 0 spyware(s) unremovable

Post by **KDXGarage** » 04:00 pm Nov 02 2005

POUR DOWN CENTER!!

Nah, he told me.

KAY DEE EXER: You need to stop hitting the questionable content sites, if you are getting that many hits.

KDXer · Post by **KDXer** » 04:02 pm Nov 02 2005

Awww do I haaaaave tooooo ??!!??

Post by **Indawoods** » 05:41 pm Nov 02 2005

Remove the Temporary Internet files too... not just cookies and history. It always calls on the temp files first to load a page.

Jerry, I am really sorry for the problems your having. I haven't heard of anyone else having issues with this type of security.

Always check for updates of your software and I can send you XP if you want it.

But note this... you cannot upgrade 98 to XP. It must be a clean install.

canyncarvr · Post by **canyncarvr** » 06:51 pm Nov 02 2005

Good grief! Where did all this hulaballoo come from, anyway?

I read a whole lot of thrashing around what seems to be a simple truth of the matter...but no one says anything about it.

Things that seem simple in such ways generally turn out to be completely misunderstood (by me)...but, may I ask a couple of questions?

First...everyone is clear on what Inda's purpose/intent is on the bartbutt, right? He can tell where requests for data are coming from. If they come from anyplace other than his site he blocks the request. When you are on the KDXRider site and 'request' graphic data..he sees that data request as coming from himself.

But....if you post a link on your own home page to something that is on KDXRider, you get the butt. He sees that data request as coming from outside KDXRider.

The reasons for this are obvious, correct? First off..that it would be done anyway surpasses my understanding...but that is secondary. Every link to this site from some other site effectively takes a dime out of Inda's pocket. You are making him pay for the makeup/content/info on some other site. It's basically theft. That's pretty straightforward, ain't it? Sorry...but should be (or should have been) common knowledge.

Ski: Everything works at work. You are using IE6-something there? And nothing works at home. You are using FireFox there? What does IE do? The same?

Are you using a proxy? A proxy is generally used as a privacy device...so no one can see you..they see only the proxy. Seems to me Inda would see that as someone other than you using the site...and therefore you would get the butt.

Inda: You don't support proxy use...do you?

Checking for new content when you visit the page (meaning it won't show from cache if there is something new to show) shouldn't have any effect on this. Inda won't see that as coming from someplace else.

So...let's review:

FireFox and IE work the same? **edit** Sorry I see now you said that already

Why FireFox anyway?

Proxy in use?

Ha! Being 'gold' has its disadvantages don't it?

BTW...KayD...Nice (although not rated for general public use!) avatar!

canyncarvr · Post by **canyncarvr** » 07:13 pm Nov 02 2005

A couple other things if I may:

Adware (SpyWare, Malware..whatever you want to call it) is not uncommonly bogus about now. You can run three different scans from different places..and you will get three different results.

Some products will show a 'threat' that isn't even on your computer...but they WILL take your money to 'remove' it.

Any 'virus removed' result is also likely bogus. Viri aren't something 'in' some 'place' from which they can likely easily be 'removed'. They are programs that do something...have a payload. This 'payload' can be anything from showing you Bart's butt to rebooting your machine to formatting your hard drive. Most 'removal's will involve changes to keys/new keys entered into the system registry, removal of the basic source of the infection (the .exe (program) or script that started the process), and putting the kibosh on alternate data streams that the culprit started (system32abcd.exe).

The PAYLOAD of an already executed virus is likely NOT something that is going to be merely 'removed'. Once the damage is done it's either restore from a previously executed restore point (XP), system backup (a handy utility from MicroSoft that backs up the registry, system and user files) or a full reload from CD. NOT a 'fix' reload (loading over what's already there) but a reload to a formatted, wiped hard drive.

BTW...some PCs (Compaq does this) has a system backup partition. Using their software (usually on a bootable CD) you can backup the entire active partition to the backup partition. Likewise...using that same bootable CD, you can restore your active partition from the backup.

Obviously, that's only worthwhile if the backup is relatively current. Doing a restore from last year's backup is probably a waste of time.

The point: Protect yourself!!! Backup your machine and back it up often. Use a known good antivirus software package and keep it up to date! If you downloaded your antivi for free off the web somewheres...I'll bet it's worth every penny you paid for it! Nada!

Do I follow my own advice? Nope.

I used to use Symantec Ghost to clone my working hard drive to a second drive once a week. Since my system disk developed errors on it that Ghost won't handle...I haven't backed my working drive up in months! Yep...I'm an idiot.

I would have to reload from scratch onto a new drive to get around that problem. Seeing as that is what I'll have to do when I get bit (it will happen)...I'm saving the joy!!

Post by **Indawoods** » 07:19 pm Nov 02 2005

Proxy is supported. I am behind a proxy at work and run a DHCP server at home with no problems. Only Jerry is having this issue with this site is suspect. He needs to upgrade his browser, set this site as a trusted site. Others on here use Firefox without issues.. I know, I have the data.

BTW... I was going to change KD's avatar to "BASSHAT" and put a bass on top of his head!

canyncarvr · Post by **canyncarvr** » 07:47 pm Nov 02 2005

You mean...like this??

http://images.google.com/images?q=tbn:h ... onals.com/

oops...too late. ;)

KDXer · Post by **KDXer** » 08:57 pm Nov 02 2005

KDXRIDER.NET

KDXRIDER.NET

Bart attacks!