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Hybrid Gene Splicing
Posted: 04:47 pm Feb 13 2013
by bufftester
Spent this morning before work servicing and rebuilding the rear shock. Now back together with a fresh batch of 7W and 145PSI Nitrogen charge.

Re: Hybrid Gene Splicing
Posted: 04:56 pm Feb 13 2013
by Roadhazardguy
Very nice! I'm gonna have to do one of those for the first time, when I get to that point...
From what ive seen they actually don't look as bad to rebuild as you would think.
Re: Hybrid Gene Splicing
Posted: 05:21 pm Feb 13 2013
by bufftester
Pretty easy really, hardest part is getting the lower cap off as you pry it up with a couple allen wrenches. Was easier than the forks (which I still have to do).
Re: Hybrid Gene Splicing
Posted: 07:15 pm Feb 13 2013
by Tedh98
How did you go about bleeding the shock? I haven't serviced a shock yet, but from what I've read, that is the key part of it all.
Re: Hybrid Gene Splicing
Posted: 08:20 pm Feb 13 2013
by bufftester
I did a lot of internet searching on that, and in the end followed the procedure in the cyclepedia manual (all the stuff I found was just a variation of that process. Basically you fill the reservoir side halfway and insert the bladder and circlip. a bit of oil spills over, but you essentially are eliminating most of the air in the reservoir that way. Then you fill the shock body to spec (for the '00 KX250 shock I used it was 52mm from the top), insert the piston assembly until it just seats the o-ring and pump the shock several times to work the air out of the piston and oil galleys. Then fully insert the piston, put in the circlip, tap the end cap on and turn it right side up and cycle the shock some more. Leave the rod fully extended for 5 mins or so to let any residual air work up. Then hold the shock so the bleed screw is facing up and slowly remove it (watch for the squirt!) and let it drain until it stops. If it doesn't drain then you just add oil through the bleed hole till it does. then bleed screw in and charge the bladder with nitrogen. I did the bleed screw a couple times to make sure, you can feel when you cycle the rod if there's any air in there as it will kind of skip instead of moving smoothly.
Re: Hybrid Gene Splicing
Posted: 07:35 pm Feb 15 2013
by bufftester
So I just got a small box of odds and ends (collars, gaskets, hardware) so I think I now have everything to finish up, and should be getting the engine mounts welded up this weekend. I ordered everything from MotoSport, have always had good luck with them and prices are usually good. I had 17 items in my order, all for either a KX or KDX, and they all arrived quick, heck Motosport even threw in a bunch of stickers, and a 2013 calendar.....all ATV photos

lol
Re: Hybrid Gene Splicing
Posted: 02:33 am Feb 18 2013
by bufftester
Hybrid Gene Splicing
Posted: 01:00 am Mar 03 2013
by bufftester
Trying to find time to finish my build between the long hours at work. Had a couple this morning and started reassembly. Got the front end on, next is finishing radiators and plumbing (the shop seems to have eaten one of my hoses and various other parts and tools...guess I really should clean it one of these days). Still have to work out the gas tank and fine tune the air box.
New sprockets
Clamp on, steering bearings lubed and seated
Boingers hung
Motor and rear suspension bolted up
Finally looks like....half a motorcycle lol

Hybrid Gene Splicing
Posted: 01:19 am Mar 03 2013
by kdxtreme
you put the hoops on. sweet

Re: Hybrid Gene Splicing
Posted: 01:28 am Mar 03 2013
by bufftester
Yeah, those little buggers were a pain in the ass to weld for me (especially since I just learned to weld so I could do this build), but its not really a KDX without them is it?
And before anyone asks, yes it is two different colors. I opted for a can of grabber green (about the closest I could find without paying $30 a can) since I want to get riding in the next couple weeks. All the powder coaters around here are running 2 to 3 weeks and want 300 and up to blast and paint the frame. Itll wait
Hybrid Gene Splicing
Posted: 12:22 am Mar 04 2013
by bufftester
Had a good day in the shop, getting close to riding. Down to the little minutia that's slow going...wiring, bits and pieces...
rear tire and brake on
Tank modded to clear the head...this was the most stressful part of this build for me, kept thinking I was going to end up with a tank full of holes, it gets soft and gooey quick

Lots of clearance now

Carb and air box mounted
Subframe bolted up
Almost There!

Hybrid Gene Splicing
Posted: 02:50 am Mar 04 2013
by ICRage42
that is looking really great! Bet your anxious as all ever. Shoot couple more times in the shop and your done really. For sure keep the updates coming.
Btw.....that grabber green or whatever you used looks really good with the plastics better then frame color

Re: Hybrid Gene Splicing
Posted: 10:18 pm Mar 04 2013
by kdxtreme
bufftester wrote:Yeah, those little buggers were a pain in the ass to weld for me (especially since I just learned to weld so I could do this build), but its not really a KDX without them is it?
And before anyone asks, yes it is two different colors. I opted for a can of grabber green (about the closest I could find without paying $30 a can) since I want to get riding in the next couple weeks. All the powder coaters around here are running 2 to 3 weeks and want 300 and up to blast and paint the frame. Itll wait
I did the same thing you can't even tell when the bike is all built plus any finish will get beat up over time.
Re: Hybrid Gene Splicing
Posted: 03:36 pm Mar 18 2013
by bufftester
Well, a late push in the week, and early morning wrenching on Sunday, had the bike finished and ready to ride, which we promptly did 30 minutes later in a local poker run. So literally within an hour of finishing the build, it was in the desert alive! Third kick to start a motor that has sat for 4 years and been rebuilt, these things are indestructable. Last thing done was bleed brakes and test ride, which promptly showed a misadjusted carb float, 15 minutes later that was fixed and 30 mins after that she was off the trailer and playing. Thanks to everyone for their previous work and answering all the questions. I took probably 200 photos during the build, so if there is part you are interested in that isn't on this post let me know.
On a side note, at the ride on Sunday a rider came up to me and asked if I was on KDXRider.net and my name was Bufftester. TUrns out it was our very own kdxtreme! (riding a VERY nice TM450). Cool way to finish the build, thanks for saying hi Dusty.
A few of the final pics. Wiring (I used the KX125 coil, works great)







The Final Result


Re: Hybrid Gene Splicing
Posted: 07:39 pm Mar 18 2013
by Roadhazardguy
Very nice, it looks awesome! So how's it ride?
Re: Hybrid Gene Splicing
Posted: 09:19 pm Mar 18 2013
by bufftester
Rides like a dream. have to dial the suspension in still, but it works so much better than the KDX hangers. The stuff we rode yesterday would have beat me to death on the KDX, only beat me half to death on the hybrid
Bike feels more agile, and even though it sits higher, doesn't feel top heavy, carries the weight well. Odd feeling not being locked into the KDX seating position, found you can actually move around on a bike seat! lol Already looking for the next hybrid donors for my son.
Hybrid Gene Splicing
Posted: 10:51 pm Mar 18 2013
by rbates9
Hybrid Gene Splicing
Posted: 11:10 pm Mar 18 2013
by kdxtreme
Cool meeting you out in whoopville

your bike turned out great get that sucker dialed in and take it into the woods your going to love it there.

Re: Hybrid Gene Splicing
Posted: 05:40 pm Mar 26 2013
by bufftester
Sixstring,
Yeah that was pretty much it. I cut off the KDX lip behind the flat part that the clamp rides on.and trimmed the little ridge on that end off so it was flat all the way around. I then started trimming off a little bit at a time off the back and test fitting in the KX boot until the KDX one fit all the way back against the inner lip on the KX boot and the front of the two was almost lined up. Then just used the KX clamp over the whole thing. I did put a little permatex gasket seal between the KDX and KX boots to hold it all together. I did find that the easiest way to get it all on is to take the upper shock mount boot out, and unbolt the subframe. Then with the shock out of the way its really easy to line up the boot on the carb, bolt the subframe up, then bolt up the shock. I found that my KX boot lined up nearly perfectly using the stock KDX reed block.
Re: Hybrid Gene Splicing
Posted: 09:56 am Jul 31 2016
by Tyl3r
Hows the carb boot lip adapter been working out for ya? I'm contemplating doing this myself. Any signs of dust or anything sneaking past?