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Posted: 11:25 am Mar 30 2011
by Mr. Wibbens
How bout an XT225 dualsport? Surprisingly they are pretty torquey little motors
This gal is about 5' 2" and at least 10 years older than Grandma Budderfly

Posted: 11:54 am Mar 30 2011
by scheckaet
this looks very heavy for trail riding...
Posted: 12:06 pm Mar 30 2011
by Mr. Wibbens
She rides the **** out of that thing, and she can pick it up loaded with camping gear
Posted: 12:34 pm Mar 30 2011
by Mr. Wibbens
Here's one for you Granny
This guy was 74 when this photo was taken
This bike was stolen so he now rides a DRZ400
So I don't wanna hear any more of your getting to old to ride the KDX BULL ****!!
Posted: 01:34 pm Mar 30 2011
by fuzzy
She rides the **** out of that thing, and she can pick it up loaded with camping gear
Butterfly, maybe we just need to teach you the right way to pick it up. It's all about leverage, not strength.
Posted: 01:42 pm Mar 30 2011
by Mr. Wibbens
Besides Carvr rides a 200 and just look at that little leprechaunish fugger!

Posted: 08:35 pm Mar 30 2011
by island220
Lot of talk about 4t I would do the hybrid route and cut the seat, after riding the kdx a hybrd feels like your riding a 80 with tons of torque
Posted: 08:26 am Mar 31 2011
by fuzzy
After looking it up the TTR125 only weights 20ish lbs less than the 200.
Posted: 08:54 am Mar 31 2011
by island220
I think a 03 hybrid is 30 pounds less then kdx
Posted: 09:12 am Mar 31 2011
by scheckaet
seems to me that a lower bike makes a world of difference. the ttr is much lower and seems much lighter than 20 lb, maybe it's because of a lower center of gravity.
Posted: 11:10 am Mar 31 2011
by kdxmaniac
20 lbs is alot of diff. try lifting weights with 20 lbs MORE than you can lift..........get what i mean?
Posted: 11:22 am Mar 31 2011
by SS109


scheckaet wrote:seems to me that a lower bike makes a world of difference. the ttr is much lower and seems much lighter than 20 lb, maybe it's because of a lower center of gravity.
Yep, lower center of gravity and the 20lbs lighter add up to feel considerably lighter than the KDX.
Posted: 01:59 pm Mar 31 2011
by scheckaet
TTR 125 L: 172 lb dry
KDX 200: 222 lb dry
That's a 50 lb difference
In the wood I'd take the ttr (especially one with yz front end and uncorked

) over the kx.
Posted: 02:13 pm Mar 31 2011
by David_L6


scheckaet wrote:TTR 125 L: 172 lb dry
KDX 200: 222 lb dry
That's a 50 lb difference
In the wood I'd take the ttr (especially one with yz front end and uncorked

) over the kx.
I don't know where that dry weight number came from but that looks low to me. I'd bet that a TT-R125 ready to ride is going to crowd 200 lbs. May even go a little over 200 lbs. That's still going to be 20+ lbs light than a KDX but a TT-R125 is not going to have much power. I have a TT-R230 and it doesn't have much power.
Posted: 03:19 pm Mar 31 2011
by SS109


scheckaet wrote:In the wood I'd take the ttr (especially one with yz front end and uncorked

) over the kx.
Not me! My son's TTR was uncorked (airbox, screen, and exhaust mods and re-jetted) it was a lot healthier than a stocker but still no where close to my worn out KDX! Plus, even with the YZ forks, the TTR rear shock sucks! It has horrible dampening and very limited travel. I guess if I was just putting around it would be OK but even then I would rather be on the KDX as it is more comfortable.
Posted: 03:20 pm Mar 31 2011
by SS109


David_L6 wrote:

scheckaet wrote:TTR 125 L: 172 lb dry
KDX 200: 222 lb dry
That's a 50 lb difference
In the wood I'd take the ttr (especially one with yz front end and uncorked

) over the kx.
I don't know where that dry weight number came from but that looks low to me. I'd bet that a TT-R125 ready to ride is going to crowd 200 lbs. May even go a little over 200 lbs. That's still going to be 20+ lbs light than a KDX but a TT-R125 is not going to have much power. I have a TT-R230 and it doesn't have much power.
The TTR's weight will go up, yes, but so will the KDX's. Also, the KDX hold almost three times the fuel!
Posted: 03:45 pm Mar 31 2011
by scheckaet
I'm with you all, I would ride a kdx over a ttr anytime of day, however we are talking about kdx butterfly here. She mentioned the weight of a her kdx being too much and that's the reason I mentioned the ttr (+ the fact she already got 1).
On top of that, the seat height is much lower on the ttr vs kx, that makes the ttr imo easier to manage and ride in difficult conditions (like mud)
I don't think any lighter/smaller bike will be as good in the wood (engine wise especially) as the kdx. the perfect weapon would be to stuff a 200 in a a KX 100 frame but we all know that ain't gonna happen
To me THAT would be the perfect bike for a smaller person.
Posted: 06:26 pm Mar 31 2011
by rbates9
I ride with a guy that will not put more than a gallon of gas in his bike because "it's to heavy".

That was on his KDX and now on his KTM.
Posted: 07:42 pm Mar 31 2011
by TWMOODY
Let him push that bike a mile or so out of gas then see if he feels the same way.
Posted: 09:25 pm Mar 31 2011
by scheckaet


TWMOODY wrote:Let him push that bike a mile or so out of gas then see if he feels the same way.
was thinking the same way.