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kdxdazz wrote: 08:03 pm Jan 07 2025
KDXGarage wrote: 02:26 am Jan 07 2025 kdxdazz, can you please measure from the center of the swingarm pivot bolt to the little round peg at the back where the snail cam adjuster rests against? If I remember correctly, the SR swingarm was reprted as being shorter by someone years ago.
520mm centre to centre, I'd be very surprised if it was different as that would change the leverage on the rear shock

520mm is the same measurement I get on my '99 KDX220R/KDX220A-3 from the swingarm pivot bolt to the center of the snail cam chain adjuster peg, if that is what you are measuring.

I will again try to get that jauce.com site to function properly and attempt to obtain the 220 SR swingarm from Japan. No 220SR gearboxes appear to be available on that site at present, but I wouldn't mind having one of those if they do pop up. In the meantime there are plenty of E-Series gearboxes on eBay as those are being parted out frequently these days, and I have been told they are 100% drop in replacement into an H series or 220, with all but two gears being the same, and both shafts being the same. I did note a bit of where on my splines on the output shaft sprocket interface which had me a bit concerned.
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The http://auctions.yahoo.com.jp auction site has a banner directly linking for international buyers to click the link to proceed to http://buyee.jp although just doing an internet search for Yahoo auctions Japan english, Jauce, Buyee, Shopee(?), OneMall, and several other results pop up.

I've got a bid in on a 220 SR swingarm now so that I won't have to have my friend TIG weld the holes shut for the kickstand mounting bolts and then have me Mill and sand down the exterior to get rid of that big mounting pad. One of these days I will learn to TIG aluminum, but not this winter unfortunately.

If that goes well, I see several Kawasaki Zephyr ZR400 swingarms that would go good on my 1977 Suzuki GS400 frame! Only the 550, 750, and 1100 came to the USA in that model, not the smaller frame/swing arm/engine version...

I'm not sure what to expect on the shipping but the swing arm will probably only cost me $30 plus packing fees plus international shipping. If I get it for less than $165, I'll consider it a big success.
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Chuck78 wrote: 06:25 pm Jan 09 2025 The http://auctions.yahoo.com.jp auction site has a banner directly linking for international buyers to click the link to proceed to http://buyee.jp although just doing an internet search for Yahoo auctions Japan english, Jauce, Buyee, Shopee(?), OneMall, and several other results pop up.

I've got a bid in on a 220 SR swingarm now so that I won't have to have my friend TIG weld the holes shut for the kickstand mounting bolts and then have me Mill and sand down the exterior to get rid of that big mounting pad. One of these days I will learn to TIG aluminum, but not this winter unfortunately.

If that goes well, I see several Kawasaki Zephyr ZR400 swingarms that would go good on my 1977 Suzuki GS400 frame! Only the 550, 750, and 1100 came to the USA in that model, not the smaller frame/swing arm/engine version...

I'm not sure what to expect on the shipping but the swing arm will probably only cost me $30 plus packing fees plus international shipping. If I get it for less than $165, I'll consider it a big success.
Good tip on the other sites, I heard the US dollars is strong against the Japanese yen these days, there's a few SR cylinder heads on there for cheap if anybody is chasing extra low down torque, the one I bought even came with a thermostat and those things aren't cheap, shipping is not cheap from memory

On another note will have the first batch of replacement emulsion tubes for the PWK available next week, will offer them for sale in here first as soon as I know postage costs to the US
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Well, I won the auction for the 220SR swingarm, $25.18!!! I believe I will have to pay them an $80 fee for receiving, processing, and reshipping internationally, plus shipping from the seller to the third party auction agent. I can probably get it for $160 total.

The 220 SR head that I was looking at is $50 already with several bids, I don't know if it's going to be quite worth it on that although the shipping fees etc will be a lot cheaper on a second or third item. Still looking at a Kawasaki a Zephyr 400 aluminum swingarm for a street bike project as well, they were not available in the smaller sizes in the USA, only 550 750 and 1100. Japan has all kinds of cool stuff for the 400cc 4-stroke street bikes...
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Ain't that something, Chuck?! It'll be fun when the package from the Land of Rising Sun is received.
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Chuck78 wrote: 09:03 am Jan 14 2025 Well, I won the auction for the 220SR swingarm, $25.18!!! I believe I will have to pay them an $80 fee for receiving, processing, and reshipping internationally, plus shipping from the seller to the third party auction agent. I can probably get it for $160 total.

Well... The verdict is in, & I was pretty close to being on the money 💰

My 220SR swingarm has been received at the http://buyee.jp warehouse, and handling/shipping total fees to my door are:


US$136.02 (20,210 yen)
+
$25.18 (the auction purchase price).
= $161.20



$161.20 total for a swingarm without the welded on threaded lug for the klunky non-enduro type factory kickstand, not bad!
Having those holes TIG welded shut by a friend for a case of beer + many hours grinding and milling that thing off and smoothing out the swingarm to make it look as if it never existed I'd say is worth that cost!

I'll still very likely be stripping + wet sanding+ polishing + clear coating this swingarm, + adhesive-backed clear 3M heavy duty vinyl protective film on the outer exposed surfaces... As well as drilling the underside for small M5 (M6?) grease zerk fittings like I've done my '97 220R's swingarm...

Now... Kawasaki Zephyr 400 swingarm or KDX220SR head... I only have less than 30 days to pay for this 3rd party shipping/services fee, so I'd better decide quickly!
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Well... After browsing a bunch of 220B/220SR heads on http://auctions.yahoo.co.jp, I used http://buyee.jp to buy a $53.24 KDX220SR head after noticing that the squish band clearance height on the SR heads is much tighter than the US 220R (220A-4+) models, as well as of course the squish band width being wider, not to mention the dome cc volume may likely be smaller on this - yielding higher compression ratio as well as more torque and throttle response.
I almost went for a head that was externally corroded and dirty - for only $14, but after seeing in all the auctions that the squish clearance was tighter on the SR, & seeing the video from KDXdazz, I decided to go for a nice clean one for the average yahoo.co.jp auction price of low-$50 range...

Now, the suspense! They advertise "buy multiple items and save considerably on shipping!" - but how much additional is this going to run in service fees + shipping to buyee's warehouse in Japan + shipping to the USA...?
Hopefully it'll be in the $60 range for $110 total on this experiment, as that's about the cheapest 220R head in the USA on eBay at the moment.

If it's quite affordable, I'll snatch up the cosmetically corroded one as well perhaps! I think the service fees may be $80 though minimum? We'll see.
Heck, the 220SR heads look to be a better basis to machine into the RB profile than the standard 220R heads, as they don't need milled as much, nor as much taken out of the chamber - leaving a thicker casting which will promote better heat transfer....
I think that plus some porting cleanup and some very basic port alterations might work extremely well with the Pro Circuit pipe snd 90 Octane (USA ratings) non ethanol or a little toluene or VP Octane Booster added.

The 220R head is probably best for a modified 200 big bore cylinder as the best KDX configuration as far as my knowledge so far leads me to believe (from veteran pro porting gurus) is to not mill the head much at all but rather shave the base of the cylinder about the same amount (just a few hairs) to lower the transfer port height as it's a bit unconventional. This toghtens up the squish clearance so the 220R head on a 69mm overbored 200 cylinder won't need much heas work at all to perform amazingly. RB heads have only slightly different squish band width vs stock 220 heads, but a nice crisp transition to the dome which is preferred, and most importantly a tighter piston to head squish clearance.
If not turning down the cylinder base slightly, the SR head is a no brainer as it'd be a lot thicker / more metal mass left for heat transfer. The factory 220 cylinders may or may not be as good of a candidate to turn down the base, as ALL the ports are already lower, but I'll have to see what Ted Boyko says when I ship him off a 220 cylinder at some point soon. He's done some incredible work on my friend Sebastien's 200 cylinder including extensive porting & turning down the cylinder base gasket surface to lower the transfer ports as well as all the ports, and only slight head work, making more power than most 250 2-strokes now with Pro Circuit Platinum 2 pipe, Lectron Billetron Pro Series carb, & aftermarket reeds...
The 220SR head will surely be a torquey addition, but I think with the Pro Circuit Platinum 2 pipe, it will really deliver. I'll probably get 2 or even 3 if I can dig up more good deals, as they'll lend well to making something closer to an RB head but with less machining and as I said, more metal left on the head casting...or I may just find they're awesome as stock with the Pro Circuit Platinum 2 pipe and Lectron Billetron Pro Series + Boyesen RAD Valve...

After the items have arrived to their warehouse, you can apply for "package consolidation" to save on shipping by packaging as one shipment... I think a couple KDX heads could be bundled into the box with the swingarm without incurring much more package size and weight, may as well!
https://buyee.jp/help/yahoo/guide/consolidate/flow
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Let us know shipping prices please, you guys in the US have a strong dollar so buying from Japan is a better deal than Australia
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So I paid around $52 US for the 220 SR head, and total shipping to the Japan warehouse and then packaging fees and shipping internationally to me in the US is $46 for the preferred method.

It could be shipped cheaper for the international shipping to me portion, they have 4 options, but do not recommend the cheapest option on the slow boat.

I think I'll grab another 220SR head and see how much I can save with combined shipping.
I am speculating that the 220 SR heads will be better for machining into an RB type profile or stock or slightly wider squish than the RB width for more emphasis on torque, and leaving more metal mass (vs an RB'd 220SR head) to dissipate heat better which will be better for those times when I get stuck in the mud or on really hot sweaty summer days on very tight slow technical single tracks.
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Well.. I finally found a 220 Sr gearbox on Yahoo auctions japan, but the output shaft sprocket splines are shot, both worn and very rusted.... I'll probably hold off on experimenting with the gearing until I find one that also has a good shaft, as my '97 shaft definitely has some wear on it.
I think I'm going to cut up a spare used front sprocket in the lathe, cut the outer 65%+ (teeth) off, and machine it flat with a recess in it to fit over top of the snap ring, keeping it just large enough diameter after cutting the teeth off to drill some bolts through into the actual sprocket, so as to widen the spline contact area to distribute the load on the outer splines as well. This should prolong the shaft life. I've seen it aftermarket setups like this for other model bikes (Hondas iirc).

https://page.auctions.yahoo.co.jp/jp/au ... 1169607665
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Well, that first 220SR swingarm was very exciting to find, but now that I have learned how to better use the search with a couple tips and tricks, I have now found some $14 (2,000 Yen) 220SR swing arms!
The combined shipping won't be significantly cheaper due to size, but I might pick up a second one now after duscovering these.

I'm also considering picking up two more of the 220 SR heads and thermostats / thermostat housing version coolant flanges, almost identical to the US versions but with a recessed machine in them at the gasket surface.
One is $14 and corroded externally, the other is $52 & in nice shape externally but I can't tell if there's a little bit of pitting in the combustion chamber from some light detonation perhaps. This order will get quite expensive, and I need to curtail my spending elsewhere to justify, or else sell more spares in order to justify the outgoing cash flow....
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Gear ratio differences:

1999 KAWASAKI KDX220 SR (B6) Service Data (Detail)
Gear Ratios:
3.000 / 1.866 / 1.388 / 1.041 / 0.913 / 0.833
Primary Speed Reduction Ratio: 2.863
Secondary Speed Reduction Ratio: 3.000

1996 KAWASAKI KDX220R (A3) Service Data (Detail)
Gear Ratios:
2.692 / 2.000 / 1.533 / 1.235 / 1.041 / 0.869
Primary Speed Reduction Ratio 2.863
Secondary Speed Reduction Ratio 3.538


(from japan.webike.net)


200SR (E-Series street legal SR model) vs E-Series off-road model:
Dodger wrote: 03:34 pm Jul 18 2011 The SR gearbox ratios are different from the E series

E series ratios are:
1st = 2.692 (35/13)
2nd = 2.000 (28/14)
3rd = 1.533 (23/15)
4th = 1.235 (21/17)
5th = 1.041 (25/24)
6th = 0.869 (20/23)

SR model ratios are:
1st = 3.000 (36/12)
2nd = 1.866 (28/15)
3rd = 1.388 (25/18)
4th = 1.130 (26/23)
5th = 0.960 (24/25)
6th = 0.833 (20/24)

Primary drive ratio is the same at 2.863

By my calculations 13/50 gearing on the SR equates to approximately the following E series gearing:
1st = 12/52!
2nd = 13/46
3rd = 13/46
4th = 13/46
5th = 13/46
6th = 13/48

As you can see, 1st gear is on the SR is ridiculously low! (no doubt because the SR model originally came with 14/45 gearing for the street)

So it seems as if the SR street legal international version KDX's only have a significantly deeper first gear so that they can get the bike moving from a stop with a 14T front sprocket, which I saw the 220SR (& 200SR "E-Series") were both equipped with, for higher road cruising speeds.
So outside of the much deeper/wider ratio first gear, the SR gearboxes are actually more of a close ratio gearbox, keeping the engine in a tighter RPM range where it's most efficient, as well as the 1st enabling a more highway friendly " sprocket sizing, or final drive ratio I suppose you'd call it on a chain drive bike - while still being able to get off the line readily. This 1st gear would also be nice for technical terrain...

The 1st gear pair would be of noteworthiness perhaps to some riders who do serious technical terrain I'd imagine... So this is still a good discovery.
I'd pick up a pair of SR gearbox shafts to throw that 1st gear set into my crankcases on a rebuild for sure... A 13/46 would be a nice ratio then, step it up to a "stock" 47 when doing serious hard enduro / trials tyoe technical terrain...
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My Yahoo Auctions Japan bidding is finalized, I picked up a purple front rotor guard for $7.xx, a 2nd 220SR head for $14.xx, & a 2nd 220SR swingarm for $14.xx...
It seems 2,000 Yen is a pretty standard opening bid price, and 1,000 on the small ticket items, no other bids on those. Now, the wait begins....
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Holy **** that's cheap, I wouldn't mind that front rotor guard
One thing you may want to consider with the SR head, and this is just theories at the moment, it doesn't pair so well with aftermarket pipes which are designed for higher rpm where as the SR head is designed for low rpm torque, no matter what ,I cannot get the pwk35 or the lectron to work well with my procircuit platinum 2 pipe yet my keihin pe28 with stock pipe accelerates like a top fuel dragster 🙂
Again it's just theories and no more trying to get mine set up perfectly until I go back to a stock pipe. I'll try find a stock kdx200 pipe rather than the bolt on kdx220sr pipe, should be a happy medium
I was in the jungle 2 days ago, 7 hours of kind of grueling single track and I don't think I ever made it past 1/4 throttle so I'm thinking stock pipe best suits my needs, plus with my short legs I drop the bike often and the procircuit pipe is made of baked beans cans which dent if you sneeze on it
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kdxdazz wrote: 08:08 pm Jan 30 2025 I was in the jungle 2 days ago, 7 hours of kind of grueling single track and I don't think I ever made it past 1/4 throttle so I'm thinking stock pipe best suits my needs, plus with my short legs I drop the bike often and the procircuit pipe is made of baked beans cans which dent if you sneeze on it
Jungle? Sounds GREAT!
So does the conclusion that an old motorbike is adequate. Old, mostly stock KDX 220 & DRZ 400S are adequate for me.
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billie_morini wrote: 11:09 pm Jan 30 2025
kdxdazz wrote: 08:08 pm Jan 30 2025 I was in the jungle 2 days ago, 7 hours of kind of grueling single track and I don't think I ever made it past 1/4 throttle so I'm thinking stock pipe best suits my needs, plus with my short legs I drop the bike often and the procircuit pipe is made of baked beans cans which dent if you sneeze on it
Jungle? Sounds GREAT!
So does the conclusion that an old motorbike is adequate. Old, mostly stock KDX 220 & DRZ 400S are adequate for me.
I'm really not a great enduro rider, my bread and butter is Supermoto, I can't do pivot turns, still can't do the double blip , I still don't know what makes for a perfect enduro bike, there are quite a few wealthy oil and gas expats here in Thailand that have the latest ktm's and Husqvarnas but they don't seem to be any quicker or better than me. Then if they are shorter they have to spend huge amounts of money on the suspension.Height is the number 1 factor for enjoying a dirtbike in the jungle and at 5"6 I don't possess that, thais use the klx150, simple air-cooled 2 valve engine and they do exceptionally well
Been meaning to do a quick write up on my damper rod forks set up as they really feel quite good in slow technical terrain
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kdxdazz, if you could and have time, can you make a new thread with pics of some of the bikes you see? I am assuming the KLX150 is not the same as the KLX140 firt bike Kawasaki sells here. I know they have a ton of small cc bikes there. It would be cool to see some. Thanks.
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kdxdazz wrote: 07:45 pm Jan 31 2025
billie_morini wrote: 11:09 pm Jan 30 2025
kdxdazz wrote: 08:08 pm Jan 30 2025 I was in the jungle 2 days ago, 7 hours of kind of grueling single track and I don't think I ever made it past 1/4 throttle so I'm thinking stock pipe best suits my needs, plus with my short legs I drop the bike often and the procircuit pipe is made of baked beans cans which dent if you sneeze on it
Jungle? Sounds GREAT!
So does the conclusion that an old motorbike is adequate. Old, mostly stock KDX 220 & DRZ 400S are adequate for me.
...
I'm really not a great enduro rider, my bread and butter is Supermoto, I can't do pivot turns, still can't do the double blip , I still don't know what makes for a perfect enduro bike,
kdxdazz, pish posh! The applicable surfing anolgy is, "The best surfer is the one that has the most fun." Do you have fun? If so, then "end of."
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Seeing as the KDX200E and KDX200H gearbox shafts are identical, and almost the entire transmission/gearbox gears etc are identical and are 100% compatible, the KDX200SR (an E-Series era variant) gearbox would also serve as a donor for someone wanting the deeper 1st gear ratio... Unless other gears are permanently part of the shafts, I would try to make a hybrid gearbox with the KDX200H/200E/220R 2nd-6th gears but the 200SR/220SR 1st gear set... This would make a really nice hard enduro type gearing but still lends itself to giving the engine something to use it's torque on in 2nd and up. The bike will really accelerate faster when running stock sprocket sizes or even higher top speed sprocket sizes, as too low of gearing will just have the rider shifting nonstop, and the engine not really having much of any resistance to utilize it's torque against. I have found this from firsthand experience, this is why the deeper first gear would be nice, a good crawler gear to get started, while retaining normal functionality in the rest of the gears...
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Re: Kdx220sr differences

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billie_morini wrote: 12:45 am Feb 01 2025
kdxdazz wrote: 07:45 pm Jan 31 2025
billie_morini wrote: 11:09 pm Jan 30 2025

Jungle? Sounds GREAT!
So does the conclusion that an old motorbike is adequate. Old, mostly stock KDX 220 & DRZ 400S are adequate for me.
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I'm really not a great enduro rider, my bread and butter is Supermoto, I can't do pivot turns, still can't do the double blip , I still don't know what makes for a perfect enduro bike,
kdxdazz, pish posh! The applicable surfing anolgy is, "The best surfer is the one that has the most fun." Do you have fun? If so, then "end of."


EXACTLY! I struggle with timing on body positioning + clutch + throttle on double blip log jumps, I'm no Graham Jarvis, Rich Larsen, Cody Webb etc... but I still have A TON OF FUN! Pivot turns are something that I'm wanting to perfect this season. I wish I had an area close to my home in the city where I could just go and practice techniques and log jumps. Being in the oldest central neighborhood in the capitol city of Ohio, there's not much vacant desolate land around me within a mile radius to ride to, except trespassing on the railroad tracks or the City parks and Recreation owned wooded lands along the major waterways (big creek and small-medium river). The Parks and the Railroad Police don't take too kindly to that, and Ohio law for dirt bike titling actually specifically states dirt bikes are NOT TO BE RIDDEN on railroad right-of-ways... IN THE TITLING LAWS!!! I do have a 100ft X 35ft vacant lot behind me, I'd considered hauling a tree trunk section over there to practice on...neighbors would grow tired of hearing my 2-stroke nonstop though...
'97 KDX220R - purple/green! - KLX forks, Lectron, FMF, Tubliss
'99 KDX220R project - '98/'01 RM125 suspension, Titanium hardware, Lectron Billetron Pro, Tubliss
'77 Suzuki PE250 & '83 Suzuki PE175 Full Floater - restomod projects
'77 Suzuki GS750-844cc, '77 GS400/489cc & '77 GS550/740cc projects
'62 GMC 1000 Panel Truck
'88 Suzuki Samurai TDI/Toyota swaps
'88 Toyota 4x4 pickup
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