Kdx220sr differences

[kdxdazz]

For those of you that are interested in the kdx220sr differences I put together a short video

[KDXGarage]

THANK YOU for the video! Several of us in the USA wonder what other market models look like.

A couple of things to add would be the electrical system, stator, coils and such. Also, the steering lock and key.

[kdxdazz]

Good to know, I didn't know the US version was missing those things

[billie_morini]

kdxdazz, your video is brlliant!!! Huge thank you for expending the effort to make and share it.

Know the primary element that makes the USA model differ is the KDX 220 in USA is an off-road / dirt only model. So, it can have a factory plastic tank and does not require speedometer and Department of Transportation (DOT) lighting.

billie

[KDXGarage]

kdxdazz, all USA KDX's were dirt only.

No DOT (Department Of Transportation) approved tires
single rider only (no passengers - no passenger footpegs)
no batteries
no indicators (blinkers)
suspension set up for "dirt only"
carbureted and ported as such
pre-mix fuel in plastic tank, no steel tanks
no high/low beam on the headlight
no brake light(s)
exhaust system for dirt use, non-road use
18" rear wheel on full-sized models
no key
no speedometer
some had tripmeter only, some odometer and tripmeter, some had none

[kdxdazz]

Cheers guys, if there are any needle experts, I'm trying to get the jetting dialed in on this, stock needle is stamped N2BD, I can't decode this to work out which direction I should go but straight diameter is 2.45mm
I tried a JFN needle which has a 2.48 diameter and it wouldnt run at all the tip is so rich that it exposed more surface area of the main jet which affected it all the way to idle, so just when I thought a new quite a bit about jetting this one throws me a curve ball, I know CV carbs behave this way but not sure why a keihin PE does

[leiningermd]

Awesome video! I'm interested is there a place where a guy can go to get used parts for these KDX220SR's there? I want to get a transmission gear set for my 220R here in the North America and Ebay is completely void of these parts.

[kdxdazz]

Japanese auction sites would be your best bet, jauce.com is the only one I know and have used

[billie_morini]

this auction website in Jappan is cool! I see complete running bikes and interesting parts and prices. Here's the page resulting from a search for "KDX 200"
https://www.jauce.com/search/?query=KDX ... =100&link=

[Chuck78]

The kickstand on the SR model 220 looks vastly superior to the garbage kickstand they put on the off-road 200H/200E/220R/KDX250 model bikes, and the SR kickstand would appear to be far better for off-road use - as it is more of an enduro kickstand.

The R model kickstand is what I would expect on a street bike, less functional off-road. Granted I have not seen the SR model kickstand in its retracted position - to be a true enduro kickstand like the Trail Tech kickstands modified to fit our bikes, it would need to point upward at a 45° or so angle instead of sticking straight back horizontal like stock R model kickstands.

The stock off-road model kickstand can get you into some very difficult situations with laying the bike down on steep hillsides with roots or brush to get the kickstand tangled up into as the bike slides backwards downhill, leading to a very difficult bike extraction when gravity is pushing the bike to hook itself the full length of the kickstand into the brush or roots. If I didn't have a modified Trail Tech kickstand + my custom bracket for it, I would be tempted to run without the 220R kickstand at all at this point.

I might look into getting a KDX 220 SR gearbox and swing arm if the swingarm is the same other than missing the welded-on lug with kickstand mounting bolt holes. It might be cheaper / less labor than paying someone to TIG weld the big bolt holes shut and then try and machine and file and sand and polish the swing arm again to get rid of those holes.

[Chuck78]

Looking on Jauce auctions, it would appear as if the 220 SR flywheel rotor has a significant flywheel weight permanently riveted to the outside of it compared to the off-road model.

I believe that the SR models also had a completely different style of stator, instead of having one individual coil for lights and one individual coil for ignition, it had a multi-pole stator if I'm not mistaken.

If you have a chance, I would like to see a better close up picture of the 220 SR kickstand mounting, as well as being interested in hearing how it folds up.

[Chuck78]

I was trying to bid on a 220 SR swingarm on that Jauce.com website, however I was having an immense amount of difficulty with the website functioning properly. It makes you send them a PayPal deposit for the amount of your maximum bid amount, as this is a third party bidding service website that has items in Japan shipped to them in Japan and then they ship them internationally to sellers outside of japan. They basically buy it for you and then you pay them after it's received at their warehouse, to ship it out of Japan internationally. Not being able to read or speak japanese, this apparently is a necessity as the Japanese auction websites may not work very well through a translator or may not even ship internationally.

It makes you put down a deposit to cover the bid price, and will not let you bid until doing so. Every time I try to deposit 26 US Dollars into my account there, it gives me this error message:
"The amount you entered is not valid."

The swing arm bid price currently has no bids and is at less than $20 US. Shipping and packaging fees look to be about $85 however, but I think that's worth it for not having to weld up and machine down the side of the swing arm, although I do plan to strip and sand and polish the swing arms regardless, but not having to remove the kickstand lug which is welded on would be a big bonus worth roughly $100 US...

[kdxdazz]

I imagine side stand on the swingarm would make pivot turns on the stand much more difficult

[kdxdazz]

You can see from the parts diagram SR has. 12t and the R model has 13t, I think top gear and 3rd might be different too.
Just thought I better provide proof rather than people spending their hard earned cash and I made a mistake

[KDXGarage]

kdxdazz, can you please measure from the center of the swingarm pivot bolt to the little round peg at the back where the snail cam adjuster rests against? If I remember correctly, the SR swingarm was reprted as being shorter by someone years ago.

[Chuck78]

kdxdazz, can you please measure from the center of the swingarm pivot bolt to the little round peg at the back where the snail cam adjuster rests against? If I remember correctly, the SR swingarm was reprted as being shorter by someone years ago.

Ahhhh.... Thanks for bringing this up! That would change things for me. EDIT - SR & R have same length swingarms

[kdxdazz]

kdxdazz, can you please measure from the center of the swingarm pivot bolt to the little round peg at the back where the snail cam adjuster rests against? If I remember correctly, the SR swingarm was reprted as being shorter by someone years ago.

520mm centre to centre, I'd be very surprised if it was different as that would change the leverage on the rear shock

[KDXGarage]

Thank you for checking!

I thought you said it was a shorter shock. I thought that might be related.

[kdxdazz]

Thank you for checking!

I thought you said it was a shorter shock. I thought that might be related.

Yes shorter shock, only the shock shaft is shorter, all linkages are the same as far as I know
Shock internals are the same

[Chuck78]

Thank you for checking!

I thought you said it was a shorter shock. I thought that might be related.

Yes shorter shock, only the shock shaft is shorter, all linkages are the same as far as I know
Shock internals are the same

This is also great to know that all linkages are the same, which means the swing arm may be identical other than the kickstand mounting lug on the off-road models welded to the swingarm box tubing.

It seems as if Kawasaki made a huge oversight, as the SR road legal models have a kickstand more suited to off-road use, yet the off-road models have a kickstand that is terrible for serious off-road enduro riding but would be fine on the road....