Counter Shaft Seal - Best Tool Ever!

[Kawibunga]

Ok so maybe not the best tool ever, but I had a leak on my new build. Seal would not leak if the bike was straight up but leaned over it would weep on the outside of the seal. I really didn't want to pick and pry and fool around and potentially damage anything, so I purchased the proper motion pro tool ........ and did it ever work nice!

installed the new seal, along with a new sleeve and orings (a perfectly size bushing driver instead of a socket might have been nice) and put a bit of permetex red on the OD of the seal and should be good to go. Well check tonight......

https://www.motionpro.com/product/08-0636

[Molly's 70]

What is the name of the tool. I've never seen anything like it.

[Kawibunga]

Not sure of the name, just a seal remover made by motion pro........ sure you can get it online at rockymountain MC and things like that. I picked up mine via Fortnine as I'm Canadian...... link to the guys at RMMC using it below. Worked slick!! Counter Shaft size and seal bore must be fairly similar amongst manufactures as there is only one size of these......

[KDXGarage]

Wow! Really neat.

Crankshaft seal puller

Safely removes countershaft seals with an ID of 29 mm to 47 mm
Works on off road, street and ATV engines
Unique expansion mechanism ensures seal is pulled straight and will not damage engine cases during extraction
The only puller designed specifically for countershaft seals
Durable steel construction
Part No. 08-0636

$64.99
orders of $29.99 or more ship for free



I bought this one, but have not used it yet:

https://www.lislecorp.com/specialty-too ... eal-puller

[Chuck78]

I really didn't want to pick and pry and fool around and potentially damage anything, so I purchased the proper motion pro tool ........ and did it ever work nice!

installed the new seal, along with a new sleeve and orings (a perfectly size bushing driver instead of a socket might have been nice) and put a bit of permetex red on the OD of the seal and should be good to go. Well check tonight......

https://www.motionpro.com/product/08-0636

That's a brilliant tool! With as frequently as my wife's and my buddy's KTM 200's leak at that point (Kawasaki uses a 2-o-ring-design vs KTM using a single o-ring), I really should invest in this tool...
It's a well known joke to refer to this seal assembly on the KTM's as the "KTM Automatic Chain Oiler!"
They really need replacing once or twice a year on the KTM... vs the Kawasaki design going many years on one seal and o-ring set. Using OEM parts and quality sprockets (to get the correct thickness) goes a long way on the Kawasaki parts.

[billie_morini]

Kawibunga, I used this very tool last week, on my KDX even!

[MoonStomper]

The KTM 200 ‘Automatic Chain Oiler’ is a feature not a joke. Would like to have had this tool when we had that bike. We did get extra life from the chains on that bike though!

[Chuck78]

The KTM 200 ‘Automatic Chain Oiler’ is a feature not a joke. Would like to have had this tool when we had that bike. We did get extra life from the chains on that bike though!

I love riding the KTM 200, but the maintenance is a pain in the @$$ compared to a Kawasaki 2-stroke!!! No sight glass to monitor oil level and condition, instead, 2 side case drain plugs with an oddball M10-1.0 thread size in easily stripped out magnesium covers, + an M5-.8 or M5-.75 oil level checking overflow hole that is equally prone to stripping out, problematic power valve linkage design, fragile gearbox gears vs KX/KDX, poor water pump design vs KX/KDX, too many tiny M5 and M6 engine fasteners prone to stripping out, while the lower center of gravity due to center spine frames (lower fuel carrying height) is nice - but the tanks move around more and are prone to cracking and leaking and warping/bowing outward...as well as tanks being more exposed to rock damage in lay-down crashes. Tough to reach the spark plug and carb especially with aftermarket replacement tanks, no linkage PDS suspension makes them primarily a low speed woods racer etc etc... Airboxes are an MX race quick access design, side cover of airbox is not water tight so they can't do deep water crossings at all, unlike the KDX top loader design, and the airbox covers are prone to flying off - previous owner's name and cell number are written in paint marker on my buddy's 2007 KTM 200 XC airbox side cover for this reason lol, further reinforcing the poor woods/enduro use ofvthos MX-stye airbox...

The KTM 200 is certainly of higher spec than a KDX, similar spec as a '95+ or '96+ KX, and comes with a better fork for sure, but the fork still needsca good revalve job. A tricked out KDX with a good fork swap and tasteful mods is definitely my preference over the KTM 200, and a heavily modded KDX or a KX125/KDX200 big bore with Pro Circuit/Boyko Racing / Tom Morgan Racing ported cylinder or just a modded head 220 with same porting in a KX125 chassis is absolutely my preference every time...
An all black plastics 2024 Beta 200RR Race Edition would sway me heavily, but what good is a bike that doesn't need a gearhead tinkering on it and modifying everything?!? Plus, the '96 KX checkered flag purple shroud graphics stylings on a purple and green bike is as awesome as it gets on the afformentioned heavily modded 89-06 KDX200/220 or KX125/KDX220 hybrid...