250 starting problems

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250 starting problems

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Very difficult to start my kdx..once its warmed up starts easily. I live in warm climate. Any ideas on what might be wrong? Recently changed to a 33mm chinese carb as the 35 mm original needs repairing and I have not found a repair kit yet.
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Welcome to kdxrider.

Assuming everything else is OK, carb or reeds would be where I started.
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Was it difficult to start cold prior to installing the Chinese Carb ??
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My guess is that Chinese carb is a pile of doo doo.
If you lend someone $20, and never see that person again, it was probably worth it.
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Chinese carbs have poor quality control. Seldom are they going to meet the required precision to get the job done as good as proper OEM spec carbs.
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What is the issue with the OEM carb?

How did it run before the OEM carb went bad?
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KDXGarage wrote: 12:28 am Jul 12 2024 What is the issue with the OEM carb?

How did it run before the OEM carb went bad?
with oem carb==when i filled gas tank gas just started pouring out of the the overflow hose. But it strted easily with oem carb. Basically i took bad advice and got the chines carb and was told my oem needed a repair kit which I cant seem to find.
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Molly's 70 wrote: 11:20 am Jul 11 2024 My guess is that Chinese carb is a pile of doo doo.
sounds right--30$
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sorry for the slow responses--i didnt get any notifications
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You just need a float needle and float bowl gasket for the OEM carb, and definitely a good idea to change out the jet block gasket with a genuine OEM Keihin part, not aftermarket. It's not shown on the Kawasaki parts diagrams, but it's there. You just have to order it from Sudco, Jets R Us, or JD Jetting to get a guaranteed genuine Keihin part.
Apologies if you've said you already replaced the jet block gasket, I didn't have time to read the thread again.

The float needle or a gummed up seat for the fooat needle, along with proper float height adjustment, I believe 18mm is the accepted spec vs OEM calling for 16mm, & your OEM carb issue will hopefully be resolved.
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Yeah, if you turn on the gas and gas just starts pouring out the overflow you have a stuck float, easily cleaned up with a carb clean/rebuild. Likely that's all that's keeping you from running your OEM carb. The Chinese clones are $30 for a reason
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Check for the rubber cone not sealing against the face.
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Chuck78 wrote: 10:59 am Jul 13 2024 You just need a float needle and float bowl gasket for the OEM carb, and definitely a good idea to change out the jet block gasket with a genuine OEM Keihin part, not aftermarket. It's not shown on the Kawasaki parts diagrams, but it's there. You just have to order it from Sudco, Jets R Us, or JD Jetting to get a guaranteed genuine Keihin part.
Apologies if you've said you already replaced the jet block gasket, I didn't have time to read the thread again.

The float needle or a gummed up seat for the fooat needle, along with proper float height adjustment, I believe 18mm is the accepted spec vs OEM calling for 16mm, & your OEM carb issue will hopefully be resolved.
Im not sure what kit to order. the markings on my oem carb are PJ 150AFH
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Can you post a picture of what you are seeing so we can see it too? Instructions in my signature.
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KDXGarage wrote: 02:24 pm Jul 14 2024 Can you post a picture of what you are seeing so we can see it too? Instructions in my signature.
My local mechanic says I need new float bowl gasket. I would prefer a full repair kit. Not sure which one to buy.
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Did that bike come stock with a PJ carb? In the USA, our KDX's had the PWK from 1988 onward.
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KDXGarage wrote: 11:43 pm Jul 14 2024 Did that bike come stock with a PJ carb? In the USA, our KDX's had the PWK from 1988 onward.
I dont know..bought it second hand..Imported into thailand from Japan I believe
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What year and exact model is it?

Do you have a VIN or frame number you can post? Thanks. A place called impex has parts diagrams.
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Is this a KDX250SR?
The parts may be different between an offroad model PWK36 & an SR street legal model, but the type of parts needed will be the same,float needle and float bowl gasket, perhaps jet block gasket.
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Chuck78 wrote: 06:33 am Jul 15 2024 Is this a KDX250SR?
The parts may be different between an offroad model PWK36 & an SR street legal model, but the type of parts needed will be the same,float needle and float bowl gasket, perhaps jet block gasket.
I dont know if this sr. the graphics are different than the sr's that I have seen here. But it is street legal..turn signals etc..
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