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Torque Specs
This is from my owners manual (2002 KDX 200)
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- Chuck78
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Re: Torque Specs
Thanks for posting, Paul!
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Re: Torque Specs
Is there a difference between wet torque and dry torque?
If something has a little lubricant on it do you torque it to the same spec?
If something has a little lubricant on it do you torque it to the same spec?
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Re: Torque Specs
There definitely is, but Kawasaki doesn't provide that spec. I'm sure you could probably find a % spec for dry vs oiled/greased threads online somewhere though.lucy wrote: 05:09 am Oct 05 2023 Is there a difference between wet torque and dry torque?
If something has a little lubricant on it do you torque it to the same spec?
Being dirtbikes, they get covered in mud, washed off after, and ran through deep water quite often, so I'm inclined to put anti-sieze or grease on any threads, especially any that aren't a bolt into a blind hole.
'97 KDX220R - purple/green! - KLX forks, Lectron, FMF, Tubliss
'99 KDX220R project - '98/'01 RM125 suspension, Titanium hardware, Lectron Billetron Pro, Tubliss
'77 Suzuki PE250 & '83 Suzuki PE175 Full Floater - restomod projects
'77 Suzuki GS750-844cc, '77 GS400/489cc & '77 GS550/740cc projects
'62 GMC 1000 Panel Truck
'88 Suzuki Samurai TDI/Toyota swaps
'88 Toyota 4x4 pickup
'99 KDX220R project - '98/'01 RM125 suspension, Titanium hardware, Lectron Billetron Pro, Tubliss
'77 Suzuki PE250 & '83 Suzuki PE175 Full Floater - restomod projects
'77 Suzuki GS750-844cc, '77 GS400/489cc & '77 GS550/740cc projects
'62 GMC 1000 Panel Truck
'88 Suzuki Samurai TDI/Toyota swaps
'88 Toyota 4x4 pickup
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Re: Torque Specs
Yes, wet tightening torque is lower than dry tightening torque!
Oil, grease, anti-seize paste, & Loctite are examples of wet materials.
The amount wet tightening torque is decreased is determined by hardware material, hardness, & size. The majority of hardware manufacturers, mechanical engineering codes & standards, and assorted charts & tables advise decreasing dry tightening torque by 25% to 40%. I usually go with 25% decease, sometimes 30%, as a shortcut to spending time to look up specific data. Although I do keep a generic printed table at my work bench, I'll use the 30% rule of thumb with softer materials.
The exception to my rule of thumb involves Loctite. The Loctite manufacturer says you should reduce dry tightening torque by 20% when using their products.
Oh, don't forget to:
1) Calibrate your torque wrenches every 2 to 3 years (very affordable services available, if you don't want to DIY),
2) Use a beam style torque wrench, instead of clicker style, on critical assemblies due to superior accuracy, and
3) Do NOT loosen tight nuts & bolts with your torque wrench because this can result in calibration loss
Oil, grease, anti-seize paste, & Loctite are examples of wet materials.
The amount wet tightening torque is decreased is determined by hardware material, hardness, & size. The majority of hardware manufacturers, mechanical engineering codes & standards, and assorted charts & tables advise decreasing dry tightening torque by 25% to 40%. I usually go with 25% decease, sometimes 30%, as a shortcut to spending time to look up specific data. Although I do keep a generic printed table at my work bench, I'll use the 30% rule of thumb with softer materials.
The exception to my rule of thumb involves Loctite. The Loctite manufacturer says you should reduce dry tightening torque by 20% when using their products.
Oh, don't forget to:
1) Calibrate your torque wrenches every 2 to 3 years (very affordable services available, if you don't want to DIY),
2) Use a beam style torque wrench, instead of clicker style, on critical assemblies due to superior accuracy, and
3) Do NOT loosen tight nuts & bolts with your torque wrench because this can result in calibration loss
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Re: Torque Specs
billie_morini wrote: 08:57 am Jul 26 2024 Yes, wet tightening torque is lower than dry tightening torque!
Oil, grease, anti-seize paste, & Loctite are examples of wet materials.
The amount wet tightening torque is decreased is determined by hardware material, hardness, & size. The majority of hardware manufacturers, mechanical engineering codes & standards, and assorted charts & tables advise decreasing dry tightening torque by 25% to 40%. I usually go with 25% decease, sometimes 30%, as a shortcut to spending time to look up specific data. Although I do keep a generic printed table at my work bench, I'll use the 30% rule of thumb with softer materials.
The exception to my rule of thumb involves Loctite. The Loctite manufacturer says you should reduce dry tightening torque by 20% when using their products.
Oh, don't forget to:
1) Calibrate your torque wrenches every 2 to 3 years (very affordable services available, if you don't want to DIY),
2) Use a beam style torque wrench, instead of clicker style, on critical assemblies due to superior accuracy, and
3) NOT loosen tight nuts & bolts with your torque wrench because this can result in calibration loss
EXCELLENT INFO, Billie!
'97 KDX220R - purple/green! - KLX forks, Lectron, FMF, Tubliss
'99 KDX220R project - '98/'01 RM125 suspension, Titanium hardware, Lectron Billetron Pro, Tubliss
'77 Suzuki PE250 & '83 Suzuki PE175 Full Floater - restomod projects
'77 Suzuki GS750-844cc, '77 GS400/489cc & '77 GS550/740cc projects
'62 GMC 1000 Panel Truck
'88 Suzuki Samurai TDI/Toyota swaps
'88 Toyota 4x4 pickup
'99 KDX220R project - '98/'01 RM125 suspension, Titanium hardware, Lectron Billetron Pro, Tubliss
'77 Suzuki PE250 & '83 Suzuki PE175 Full Floater - restomod projects
'77 Suzuki GS750-844cc, '77 GS400/489cc & '77 GS550/740cc projects
'62 GMC 1000 Panel Truck
'88 Suzuki Samurai TDI/Toyota swaps
'88 Toyota 4x4 pickup